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A.B. Stoddard: What is the IRS hiding?
The Hill ^ | 6-18-14 | A. B. Stoddard

Posted on 06/20/2014 3:00:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

My parents didn’t spend much time warning us kids about vandalism, petty theft or mail fraud, but much was made of the attention and focus we would need as adults when it came to our finances, because the Internal Revenue Service could pounce at any time. “If you ever get audited” were chilling words that frightened me, as I was certain I could never, ever produce the requisite documentation to defend myself and would be mortally ashamed when I had to suffer the legal consequences. My mother, who ran her own business, lamented the time it took her to copy every receipt and invoice, which filled multiple filing cabinets in her small office past our laundry room, back when records were still kept only on paper.

Now electronic, all documents must be stored or destroyed — even in our federal government. The IRS’s own rules state: “IRS offices will not store the official recordkeeping copy of e-mail messages that are federal records ONLY on the electronic mail system, unless the system has all of the features of an electronic recordkeeping system.” The news that emails Lois Lerner, the central figure in the investigation into the agency’s targeting of conservative groups, wrote between 2009-2011 accidentally perished in a computer crash is once again asking us all to choose between laughing or crying.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: email; hillary; irs; irsscandals; itprofessionals; lerner; lerneremails
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1 posted on 06/20/2014 3:00:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Energy czar Carol Browner epitomized the secretive dealings of these offices when she advised auto industry executives this month to "to put nothing in writing, ever" about their meetings with her."
2 posted on 06/20/2014 3:02:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So now we have come to the point the entire feral gummint is a criminal conspiracy and enterprise.


3 posted on 06/20/2014 3:19:44 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

can you say the RICO act?
Criminal conspiracy?
Bastards ALL belong in prison or at the end of a rope.


4 posted on 06/20/2014 3:25:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: wastoute
So now we have come to the point the entire feral gummint is a criminal conspiracy and enterprise.

Yes, the whole putrefying, stinking, criminal enterprise, known as the federal government, would make the Mafia blush. To answer her question, what is the IRS hiding? Criminal activity, of course.

5 posted on 06/20/2014 3:29:07 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The penalties for destruction of Government documents and obstruction of justice are pretty stiff.

Also, the old Watergate adage is that the cover up is worse than the crime.

In the case of the IRS scandal, we have a blatant and in your face cover up being shoved down out throats and high government officials exercising their 5th Amendment rights against self incrimination so what they are covering up must be pretty bad indeed.

In the IRS case, it's becoming plainly obvious that, unlike the Watergate scandal, with the IRS scandal the crime is much much worse than the cover up.

6 posted on 06/20/2014 3:36:02 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Nothing. ..now....


7 posted on 06/20/2014 3:36:11 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: rdcbn

There is really only one reason for this. It goes to the highest reaches of the White House.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 3:52:20 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 98ZJ USMC

And no one seems to care. Suppose the emails are recovered and they flat out show Obama ordered the IRS to stop conservative groups. Then what?


9 posted on 06/20/2014 3:55:07 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
"And no one seems to care. Suppose the emails are recovered and they flat out show Obama ordered the IRS to stop conservative groups. Then what?"

Good point; would Boehner do more than shed a tear and go back to being a doormat for the Dems? Probably not.

10 posted on 06/20/2014 4:03:45 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: ilovesarah2012

The democratic/progressive apparatchiks will say, because of Bush and his Conservative enablers, they needed to stymie alternative thought, ensure the rich paid taxes, and bad people were sent to jail (like they should have been in the first place).


11 posted on 06/20/2014 4:17:54 AM PDT by Liaison (qwesa)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The IRS expects us to keep our records. Shouldn’t they keep theirs for a congressional investigation?


12 posted on 06/20/2014 4:19:45 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Joe Boucher

exactly.


13 posted on 06/20/2014 4:20:58 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The administration, IRS, DOJ, EPA, ICE are flipping Americans the middle finger. This is it. If congress doesn’t go after the IRS with a rabid vengeance, stick a fork in the USA. We’re done.


14 posted on 06/20/2014 4:31:14 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Subpoena every IT person involved. Someone will crack or whistleblower.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 4:31:26 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Joe Boucher

Heads must roll...... bloody heads into the basket of straw.

literally


16 posted on 06/20/2014 4:34:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They’re hiding Barry and Val’s orchestration of the whole thing.


17 posted on 06/20/2014 4:48:18 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Joe Boucher

It would be normal to expect laws to be enforced - and then these criminals would be held to account. But these aren’t normal times.

Our side needs to fight the war that we don’t even know has been declared against us. Stop adhering to laws in our fight against them. That’s how they’re winning - they don’t pay attention to laws and they get their stuff done. We try to use laws to stop them - and years and years later we may get some relief but maybe not.

Put the IRS Koskinen guy in jail. Do not respond to cries of “you can’t do that”. We just did.

Control the border w/ state personnel. Ignore cries from Holder that it’s fed responsibility to control the border. Send buses away at the border using state personnel. Lock up any feds who intervene in the state.

Listen we’re analogous to the innocent victim who is getting mugged continually but refuses to arm himself. By following the law, we are disarming ourselves. They are armed - that is - they don’t allow the law to keep them from doing what they want. We must do the same.

If they want a lawless society, we better be willing to engage in that war or we will lose. And we are.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 4:49:18 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: rdcbn
"I want her to get what she rightful deserves," he said So do we, Barry. So do we.

Not in this case. Apparently they're more willing to take the heat for destruction of evidence, because the evidence points to something much worse.
19 posted on 06/20/2014 4:50:42 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Old Yeller

The crime of breaking all of one’s bones is therefore preferable to total assassination. The penalty is smaller, therefore better


20 posted on 06/20/2014 4:53:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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