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Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform
Politico Magazine ^ | June 19, 2014 | Sheldon G. Adelson

Posted on 06/20/2014 4:28:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Radio show hosts and political pundits are suggesting that the primary election defeat of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is the final nail in the coffin for passing immigration reform in this session of Congress. They surmise that other Republicans will be especially reluctant to tackle the issue for fear of losing political support.

If we are led to believe that the results of a local election with 12 percent voter turnout in a single congressional district (one out of 435) with a mere 65,000 votes cast is all that it takes to disrupt a necessary and important national policy debate, then America is in big trouble—not just on this issue, but on a whole range of issues.

I certainly hope that is not the case.

As a Republican, it’s my view that efforts to complete immigration reform should be led by our party. Some on the outer fringes of the GOP may disagree, but the truth is we are humans first and partisans second. Frankly, the Democrats don’t have a monopoly on having hearts.

While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country. Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders. Those who favor the deportation of every person here illegally must understand that this position simply is not realistic. There is no wave of a magic wand that could accomplish such a task. Nor should there be....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamers; gop; immigration
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country. Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders. Those who favor the deportation of every person here illegally must understand that this position simply is not realistic. There is no wave of a magic wand that could accomplish such a task.

The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does.

When you reward something, you get more of it.

21 posted on 06/20/2014 5:25:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Let’s Deal With Reality and...”

Libs always like to use leading language.

“The debate is over”

“The science is settled”


22 posted on 06/20/2014 5:36:37 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior

Stopped reading here.

"Lets deal with reality" my arse. When it comes to honesty these people got nuthin.

23 posted on 06/20/2014 5:41:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Needed: ENFORCEMENT

Not Needed: "Reform."

Let us stop for a moment to consider that the origin of the present ongoing emergency is the "Immigration Reform Act of 1965."

Let us remember arithmetic, too. No matter what we do now, we are well along the path to becoming a Latin American country with a majority mestizo population. Possibly not all that great an idea. So, perhaps the longer that takes to happen, the better.

That might give us a Better chance of "Americanizing" the Hispanics, rather than the Americans being "Hispanicized."

24 posted on 06/20/2014 5:48:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Pelham

Pel Ping


25 posted on 06/20/2014 5:49:43 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country. Let’s face it, the United States does not have a process—real or imaginable—to deport 11 million people from within our borders. Those who favor the deportation of every person here illegally must understand that this position simply is not realistic. There is no wave of a magic wand that could accomplish such a task.

We do have a process, it is called enforcing the LAW.

If the executive branch chooses to ignore the current laws, why would anyone believe that "passing comprehensive immigration reform" would be enforced?

26 posted on 06/20/2014 5:53:07 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Deal with this reality. After what will be the third amnesty of tens of millions of illegals, what incentives have you put in place for the billions of others who are not yet inside our borders?

  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. deportation upon contact with any law enforcement agency - federal, state or local
  5. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the home government); and
  6. NO "Path to Citizenship" - EVER - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any measure that does not accomplish these six things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably, ineluctably encourage millions and millions more illegal entries.

Amnesty doesn't fix the problem; it exacerbates it.

27 posted on 06/20/2014 6:03:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tell me where you live,Sheldon,and within a week I and 12 members of my family will be living in your guest quarters.And after having lived there for a few months I'll go down to the county Registry of Deeds and claim co-ownership of your multimillion dollar home.
28 posted on 06/20/2014 6:08:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lets face reality, and close down immigration courts, throw aside “humanitarian” considerations and look after the best interests of the USA.
Give ‘em water and food, herd ‘em into box cars, and ship them to the southern border of Mexico. Kill anyone who tries to stop the train. When it gets there, wreck the engines, and extract the guards and crew.
If a country won’t take back its invading barbarians, then give ‘em a canteen, an AK, 7 loaded clips of ammo and land ‘em in Somalia.
In the US, make invaders ineligible for ANY benefits - no health care, education, housing, no civil rights protection.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 6:15:53 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: yldstrk
..the reality is that 11 33 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country.

Sheldon, you are also part of the problem.

30 posted on 06/20/2014 6:37:46 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I support immigration reform:

All illegals caught inside our country, including those caught as they cross the border, should be fingerprinted and DNA swabbed. Those so identified should be permanently barred from any path to citizenship or to legal entry into the Untied States.

Anyone employing illegals who has not made a good faith effort to confirm legal status should be fined more than enough that there is no incentive to hire illegals instead of Americans or legal immigrants.

The 14th Amendment "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" should be correctly interpreted - tourists who give birth while visiting are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and neither are illegals. The anchor babies of non-citizens should not be interpreted to have citizenship.

Any country that wants to trade with the United States should agree to take their own criminals back and hold them in prison for the duration of their sentences. That way, instead of getting 20 years in an American prison, a foreign rapist can spend those 20 years in the prisons of his own country (at the discretion of the jurisdiction where the crime occurred).

All legal immigrants should be barred from all forms of welfare for an extended period, such as seven years.

Bilingual education should be limited to a one year introduction to English, after which all instruction should be in English. My ancestors learned English when they came here, usually marginally for the parents and well for their children, and it was the best possible choice they could have made. All government forms should be in English only. Multilingualism will otherwise divide and destroy the United States.

We should make absolutely no accommodations at all for immigrants who are offended by the American flag - except to encourage their return to the ratholes they call home.

Congress has the authority to set immigration law. Delegating that authority to criminals who come here in violation of the law is unacceptable.

31 posted on 06/20/2014 6:43:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
HEADLINE: Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform Send the US Army to the Border

There. I fixed it.

32 posted on 06/20/2014 6:55:56 AM PDT by Gritty (The war is over. We won. - Michael Yon, Top Iraq War Correspondent, 07/21/2008)
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Fellow Texans, keep burning up the faxes, emails and phones at the governor’s office and the offices of your representatives!

Ask what they intend to do about the massive invasion of illegal aliens into Texas, bringing crime, disease, drugs and unbelievable expense to the state to care for them.

This is sheer insanity!

HOUSTON, Texas—Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) appeared on Fox News’ Fox and Friends show and said Texas lacks the resources and manpower to secure the 1,200 mile Texas border... BS!

Other Texas elected officials, speaking on condition of anonymity have told Breitbart Texas that Texas does, in fact, have the resources to conduct not only a surge operation, but a prolonged border control operation that would secure the Texas border with Mexico.

Now, Perry says he will do something. I'll believe it when I see it.

DO N'T LET THE MUZZIE GET AWAY WITH HIS CLOWARD-PIVEN SCHEME! DON'T LET HIM DESTROY TEXAS.

View on www.breitbart.com http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/17/Perry-on-Fox-We-don-t-have-the-resources-to-secure-the-Texas-Border http://www.governor.state.tx.us/contact/

Telephone Information and Referral Hotline [for Texas callers] : (800) 843-5789

Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] : (512) 463-1782

Office of the Governor Main Switchboard [office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST]- (512) 463-2000

Citizen’s Assistance Telecommunications Device If you are using a telecommunication device for the deaf (TDD)- call 711 to reach Relay Texas

Mailing Address- Office of the Governor P.O. Box 12428 Austin, Texas 78711-2428

SIGN THE PETITION!!!!!

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/request-for-immediate-texas-border-control/sign.html

Request for Immediate Texas Border Control

We, the undersigned, because the federal government has failed to act, call on the Texas Legislature to develop and fund a border and port of entry security plan utilizing state and local law...

On the TX member’s Action Board - a link to fax Perry and phone call to make to your R Reps supporting Rep Louie Gohmert’s Fortify the Border Amendment.

You have to be registered at NumbersUSA....it’s worth joining for all of the faxes you can send to your elected officials. These are good guys, who’ve been fighting the good fight for YEARS.

Additionally, anyone can call Perry and anyone can ask their Rep to support Gohmert's amendment.





33 posted on 06/20/2014 7:00:03 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

enforce the exisring laws and get rid of them all.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:34 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: patriot08

BTTT! ;-)


35 posted on 06/20/2014 7:03:40 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Sheldon. Try enforcing existing law.


36 posted on 06/20/2014 7:06:50 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Thommas

The pro amnesty crowd used to use the number of 35 to 40 million illegals already here. Then, like a light switch, they all started using the number of 11 million. I think to make it seem less harmful.

If they get amnesty, which likes will happen soon, that 11 million will magically turn into 100 million.

There are 11 million in California. Who do they think they are fooling?


37 posted on 06/20/2014 7:33:08 AM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is the CPUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

he’s just another jackass that will never see an illegal alien (except for the ones he pays slave wages to clean his hotel rooms) ...he’ll never have to share a neighborhood with them ....his grandkids will never share a classroom with them....they are as significant as ants to him, except these ants will fill his pockets ....he can go to hell


38 posted on 06/20/2014 7:37:10 AM PDT by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This administration has demonstrated why nothing can be done until the border is secured and laws enacted so we know exactly who is here.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 8:24:47 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
My mother (Spanish born, raised in Mexico) escaped the Socialist & corrupt to the core $hithole that México is. She hated that culture, she hated the corruption, she despised the ineptness of just getting anybody to do anything (everything moves slow)-—

I have said it before. The first thing to undergo a fundamental transformation with amnesty is the Democrat Party! The Dem candidates will win in formally republican majority districts only to lose next election to the south-of-border politician. Juan Ortiz-Rodriguez-Sanchez and friends were weaned on bribery and schooled in extortion. Graft is a family value to them. The new height of corruption would even make Harry Reid get vertigo. And then we will get amnesty II, amnesty III, etc.

40 posted on 06/20/2014 9:09:49 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Global Warming is caused by illegal immigrants!)
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