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IRS Emails Backed Up by Outside Email Archiving Company
Freedom Outpost ^ | 6/21/14 | Tim Brown

Posted on 06/21/2014 3:11:27 PM PDT by blueyon

On Friday, Mac Slavo reported on Congressman Darrell Issa's (R-CA) statement in which he called the Internal Revenue Service's claim that Lois Lerner's hard drive crash resulted in a loss of emails "ridiculous." Most of us know that information from crashed hard drives can be recovered, though it costs a lot of money. However, as Mac pointed out, we could simply obtain a copy from the National Security Agency since they are collecting this kind of information. But something more telling has come to light: The IRS uses as an email archiving company to back up its emails.

That's right, Sonasoft, whose slogan is "email archiving done right" touts the IRS as a customer.

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; govtabuse; irs; irsemailachives; irsemailarchives; irsteapartyscandal; lerneremails; liar; loislerner; mediabias; obama; scandal; scandals; sonasoft
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To: CARTOUCHE

“The Watergate hearings went on for months and months and eventually we’ll get to the bottom of this.”

Yeah, but those hearings were being run by the RATS! There is a difference, sad to say.


61 posted on 06/21/2014 4:44:17 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: smoothsailing
I bet Boehner knows that already. But....


62 posted on 06/21/2014 4:45:19 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Pajamajan

For a $13,000 contract, you don’t need a dog ... you just need one flea from that dog ... LOL ...


63 posted on 06/21/2014 4:50:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Bill W was a conservative

wow!


64 posted on 06/21/2014 4:50:59 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: blueyon
I've gone over many times in my head how the 7 IRS official's email tranche could disappear. I've worked in network computing since the dawn of PCs, servers and Ethernet/Token Ring. I've done forensic email analysis for a lawsuit... plus pioneering MANY massive hosted services (click on my profile).

The only way all traces could disappear is a multi-staged, highly coordinated effort, over time, across multiple people and organizations.

I won't detail all of the technical and process intricacies... but every time a user or system administrator performs any activity on any server - a log entry is created. Additional meta-data is captured with the event so that events or problems can be identified, reversed, or diagnosed. So, who, or whatever (user or system process) deleted email data - it would be in the syslog files. If the system policy deleted the emails, we would know what user set up the system policy to illegally delete data, mandated by law, to be retained. Busted either way.

So the original data, plus multiple incremental and full backups of the original data, system logs, incremental and full backups of system logs, offsite backups of said data, offsite backups of system logs, and offsite backup logs of the facility that is hosting all of the backup data - would have to be meticulously wiped!

Log files get backed up too. There are process compliance reasons for log files to get saved - to see who logged into a system, accessed data, changed the system policies, etc. Log files are not very large compared to the size of the process or data elements they track, so they're very valuable and cost effective to keep for security and audit reasons.

So the bottom line is that the emails exist elsewhere and anyone who tries to alter system internals - like deleting data, altering backup policies, editing log files, deleting traces of accessing system data - it's all captured for various reasons and backed up offsite. Deleting offsite data would require a conspiracy with the offsite facility across multiple people and systems - because all offsite maintenance is tracked by user and system, logged, and backed up - just like the original system data.

65 posted on 06/21/2014 4:52:50 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: TigersEye

Wow - that was some pretty selective “loss” of e-mails


66 posted on 06/21/2014 4:55:26 PM PDT by utford
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To: smoothsailing

They’re not backing up IRS’s e-mails for $13,000 ... LOL ...

This sounds like a contract for one or two computers,for the entire country and who knows who the computers are for.


67 posted on 06/21/2014 4:55:33 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: blueyon
I lifted them from fellowshipofminds.com

I had no idea they'd post so large. Here's a trimmed down version:



68 posted on 06/21/2014 4:58:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: TheGipperWasRight
The only catch is the likelihood the Republicans don’t have the stones to do anything about it.

Bingo. That is the likelihood that is chiseled in stones. No pun intended. They don't have them.

69 posted on 06/21/2014 4:58:11 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: Jacquerie
It will constitute a coupe d’ etat without guns or guillotines.

Rest assured those will follow. Remember, those scum bags said 25 to 30 million Americans will have to be killed off. I do not think that will happen for awhile yet, due to the 2nd Amendment. The key word is "yet."

70 posted on 06/21/2014 5:03:51 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, it looks like they’re giving it away. Ha!

http://www.sonasoft.com/products/email-archiving-promotions/free-email-archiving-solutions-for-governments/

Seriously though, what do you think their service would cost?


71 posted on 06/21/2014 5:10:08 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: blueyon

I love this...


72 posted on 06/21/2014 5:10:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hey IRS - those receipts you wanted? The dog ate 'em.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
IRS Emails Backed Up by Outside Email Archiving Company

Life is good...

73 posted on 06/21/2014 5:11:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hey IRS - those receipts you wanted? The dog ate 'em.)
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To: Farmer Dean

There is a word that is not used as much now,that I thought described the IRS chief as I watched him on TV. The word is “smarmy”. Sounds a little like “slimey”


74 posted on 06/21/2014 5:16:04 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: blueyon
Here's the deal as I see it. The IRS is only telling half the story. As an Outlook user in my compay, I am supposed to be responsible for archiving off old emails I want to keep (I have received close to 200K emails in four years, most due to operational matters in the systems I monitor). I archive them to my personal space on a network drive so they get backed up. Some users may archive them to their C drive which is what the IRS is claiming with Lerner. The IRS also claims that they recycle their daily incremental backup tapes after six months (cue the Church Lady).

However, this particular story destroys the claim that the emails are gone forever if they were archived by an outside company. And beyond that, as many have noted, some of the recipients may well have copies of the emails in their archives unless their computers also got the Obama CoverUp (TM) virus.

75 posted on 06/21/2014 5:31:38 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: CARTOUCHE
Everything in it’s time folks. Hearings aren’t conducted like an episode of CSI. The Watergate hearings went on for months and months and eventually we’ll get to the bottom of this.

That's ValJar's powerpoint. Delay, delay, deny, delay, deny, hide the evidence, deny, attack, delay, deny, PARDON!

76 posted on 06/21/2014 5:53:44 PM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: uncommonsense

We should get the metadata from the White House and Senate for the time period requested.

We need to look for links back to Lerner, or the other six IRS employees in trouble.

Obama cannot claim executive privilage, as we are only looking at Metadata.
The NSA has told us, over and over and again, that the NSA does not read e-mail content, they simply look at metadata.


77 posted on 06/21/2014 6:14:03 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Star Traveler

“They’re not backing up IRS’s e-mails for $13,000 “

No they’re not. It is a software license or yearly maintenance. It is not a service. Heck, that wouldn’t come close to buying the necessary storage.


78 posted on 06/21/2014 6:15:16 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: TigersEye

Haven’t you heard? The darnedest thing...the server they were using to store the IRS info crashed! They shredded the hard drive though for recycling, because they are environmentally conscious.


79 posted on 06/21/2014 6:16:16 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: blueyon; All

lets hope, like Watergate, there’s a deepthroat out there....


80 posted on 06/21/2014 6:20:27 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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