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To: South40

I used to go to Baja all the time covering the Off-Road races. I know they work. I heard all sorts of bitching from the locals about them.

I live in AZ. On a main route for illegals. We don’t have your fence down south. We have a much higher crossing number than you do. Because you have a fence and we do not.

Simple math. Only deniable by either a liar or someone that refuses to accept the documented numbers. One can deny deny deny all they like. all it does id wreck their cred with people that can read.

I think it is personal. It has to be because we personally are either responsible for supporting or opposing an invasion. If people oppose a proven solution for political reason/personality, that speaks volumes about their personal love of their country and their personal ‘ethics’.


92 posted on 06/22/2014 3:25:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I live at the end of a 2.5 mile dirt road in rural East San Diego County less than 10 miles from the Mexican border as the crow flies. Before the fence was built in SD it was not uncommon to see hordes of ILLEGAL aliens traipsing through my property on a daily basis. They would leave my hose running after filling their water jugs. They stole fruit from my trees. They broke into both my garage and my shed, not necessarily to steal but for shelter. They tried hotwiring my vehicles; they failed but they did accost an elderly neighbor and stole her truck. All this ended when the fences were erected. These nightmares for residents still exist, but they have been moved further east to beyond the fencing.

Last election cycle the Perry faithful avoided addressing the issues they could not defend and drug me and others into personal pissing contests. I will not allow that to happen again. I intend to stick to the issues and demand they do the same. When they won’t we’ll know that it is because they can’t.

Perry’s pro-ILLEGAL alien past is as indefensible as his recent praising of Hillary as a “great Secretary of State”. Not only do the Perry faithful not address that they continue to support him in spite of it. And that, as far as this debate goes, is our opposition.

93 posted on 06/22/2014 3:39:56 PM PDT by South40 ([Hillary Clinton was a] "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Norm Lenhart; South40
Simple math. Only deniable by either a liar or someone that refuses to accept the documented numbers.

Simple math indeed.

In fact, the Border Patrol’s own statistics show that the border walls have not brought about a decrease in illegal entries. The border patrol uses the number of border crossers apprehended in a given sector to gauge the overall number of attempted crossings. Apprehensions dropped dramatically between 2005, the year before the Secure Fence Act was passed, and 2007, the year after.

But the decrease did not occur in areas where border walls had been built. On the contrary, the greatest reductions in apprehensions, which according to the Border Patrol would indicate a successful strategy for stopping undocumented immigration, were seen in sectors that did not have walls.

Texas’ Rio Grande Valley sector saw a 45.3% decrease in apprehensions, bringing them to a 15 year low. The Del Rio, Texas, sector saw a 66.5% decrease. Neither sector had an inch of border wall before 2008. In sectors such as Tucson, which saw walls built shortly after passage of the Secure Fence Act, the reduction in apprehensions began before any wall posts were erected.

The areas that saw an increase in crossings were California’s San Diego and El Centro sectors, both of which have had border walls for over a decade. At the same time that the unwalled border witnessed dramatic decreases in crossings, heavily fortified San Diego saw a 20.1% increase.”


99 posted on 06/22/2014 4:43:06 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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