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IRS chief scorched as 'liar' (emails not backed up on a server)
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Posted on 06/24/2014 12:53:39 AM PDT by chessplayer

In a stunning admission under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, Koskinen divulged that the IRS made no effort to recover Lerner’s email archive from the six month backups after her initial computer problems in June of 2011.

Koskinen had informed the committee that emails were not backed-up on a server, but on a tape that recorded emails for only six months.

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1 posted on 06/24/2014 12:53:39 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

He’s lying. If those emails are not on a server then they were intentionally deleted.


2 posted on 06/24/2014 12:54:52 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: chessplayer

All those billions we taxpayers unwillingly paid so the wonderful IRS would have top notch computer technology and now this forked tongue Dept Chief tells us they used tape backup and for only 6 months?
Paging Pinnochio...


3 posted on 06/24/2014 2:09:49 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: chessplayer

I expect to see the emails shortly. Everyone knows that they are available, if you go looking. And the fact that the Obama administration wants them “lost” tells me that they will be explosive.


4 posted on 06/24/2014 2:56:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Congress needs to go full bore jihadi and subpeona the living daylights out of every related IRS connection. But pink tie weepy Boner and squishy Darrell Eyesore don’t inspire much confidence but we should contact our congresscritters and make a stink about it in their ears for actions with teeth.


5 posted on 06/24/2014 3:07:03 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: chessplayer
I think I heard on Fox that this Koskinen turd is a major contributor to Democraps having "contributed" over $100,000 since 1980.

So his testimony is worthless - he's obviously obstructing justice for personal gain.

Can't remember who told him the e-Mails were missing. Can't remember when he was told - "it was in April!"

I am so sick of this BS.

If somebody organizes a mass demonstration at IRS headquarters, count me in.

6 posted on 06/24/2014 3:27:11 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: chessplayer

The Obamedia will start running stories about people’s hard drives crashing and how it is very common.


7 posted on 06/24/2014 3:31:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: VerySadAmerican

I’m a computer dummy. I didn’t know emails would work unless they were on a server.


8 posted on 06/24/2014 3:41:12 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
He’s lying. If those emails are not on a server then they were intentionally deleted.

Probably by Barry bootlickers in the FBI itself.
9 posted on 06/24/2014 4:15:04 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: tflabo

“All those billions we taxpayers unwillingly paid so the wonderful IRS would have top notch computer technology and now this forked tongue Dept Chief tells us they used tape backup and for only 6 months?”

They’re already calling for new money so this won’t happen again.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 4:18:00 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: eCSMaster

And worse, Koskinen (like just about all these Administration “people”*) is arrogant and smug to the hilt. It is so obvious... but like most such types, they don’t even realize how apparent and damning that is in itself, to any conscious observer.

*Ok, I’m being generous. You’d find less slime in a big batch of catfish. Except that catfish (at least out of decent water and well prepared) make a tasty, nutritious meal. This bunch are far lower creatures. Slugs would be more like it - those big ones that leave tracks of even nastier goo (than fish have) behind, wherever they go...


11 posted on 06/24/2014 4:18:47 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: tflabo

I must admit, at that point, if I’d been doing the questioning, I might be able to resist the urge to call Pinnochio a liar, but I’m not sure I could then resist “What kind of incompetent nits are you people?”


12 posted on 06/24/2014 4:28:05 AM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Typically, in a Microsoft Exchange environment, all of the emails are stored on the server. Backups of the server capture all emails that are stored on the server at that time. However, it is possible to create a PST file on your local hard drive that you can use to perform local archiving of emails to get them off of the server. In his testimony last night, the commissioner said that this is why the emails were on Lerner’s hard drive rather than on the server. He also said that they only had 6 months of backups, which is why they cannot reconstruct her emails from 2 years ago in full.

I do understand that exclamation, although I find it to be extremely unlikely that her computer hard drive happened to crash just after investigation began, and it may be criminal that the servers were not backed up for longer than 6 months, if that is true.


13 posted on 06/24/2014 4:28:11 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

There is also a federal records management law requiring emails to be retained for 5 years. If they were over-writing in 6 months the IT director is violating federal law. Subpoena him.


14 posted on 06/24/2014 4:41:24 AM PDT by Justa
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To: chessplayer

Democrats are Law-Less because Republican “leaders” are BALL-LESS!!


15 posted on 06/24/2014 4:46:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
No INNOCENT person DESTROYS e-mails unless they are GUILTY.

No INNOCENT person PLEADS THE FIFTH!!!

16 posted on 06/24/2014 4:48:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: chessplayer

Even if the was too difficult to search the back-up tapes (and what use are they if you don’t) and even if the IT experts claimed they could not recover the e-mails on Lerner’s hard drive, why were they not secured in order to preserve the evidence? Why were they not handed over to the House committee so that they could attempt the recovery? Would any prosecutor accept the excuses given by the IRS from someone under a criminal investigation? Would the IRS accept these excuses for someone under investigation for tax fraud?


17 posted on 06/24/2014 5:46:13 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: chessplayer

Here is the link to the public document that codifies how the IRS email system is to be stored:
http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-015-006.html#d0e279

Anybody want to try to tell me that people as high up as Lois Lerner was not having her emails archived weekly, if not daily?

Read Paragraph 7 very carefully, especially Sections C and D:

C. Work-related non-record messages must be deleted when no longer needed. These include information/reference email and word processing files received “for your information” or as a carbon (CC) or blind copy (BC), but which you were not expected to and did not take action on. Further examples may include copies of directives and interim guidance, notices, images, CAD drawings, and copies of reports.

D. E-mail messages identified as federal records must be handled in accordance with their NARA-approved disposition schedule and kept in an approved recordkeeping system as discussed above. To identify the appropriate disposition, consult the Records Control Schedules Documents 12829 and 12990 or your ARM. A full listing of ARMs is located on the RIM website. IRS employees are instructed to retain all electronic copies and paper records until disposition instructions have been approved and distributed by the IRS RIM Program Office. Unlawfully destroying federal records is a violation of the Federal Records Act and carries stiff penalties.

In other words, direct correspondence MUST have been backed up. Not mighta, woulda, shoulda - it was mandatory.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 7:19:19 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: AppyPappy

I’ve had hard drives crash before, but my email was never lost. They said it was Lois Lerners drive that crashed right? Or did they change the story to a server hard drive?


19 posted on 06/24/2014 7:21:53 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Justa

I’ve thought the same thing. Bring the IT guys in and question them under oath.


20 posted on 06/24/2014 2:49:30 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Justa

” If they were over-writing in 6 months the IT director is violating federal law.”

Their excuse was that it would cost $10-20 Million to backup more and retain the records longer. Funny, but you can buy backup tapes for a little over $20 each. Each stores 3TB compressed. That is a helluva ALOT of emails. What was the compelling need to recycle them?

http://www.tape4backup.com/lto-5-tapes.php?gclid=CIvXjM_Ck78CFTJn7AodfEgA2g


21 posted on 06/24/2014 3:15:42 PM PDT by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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