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Islamist Fighters Reportedly Attempting to Encircle Baghdad
McClatchy ^ | Tuesday, June 24, 2014 | Mitchell Prothero

Posted on 06/24/2014 5:07:02 PM PDT by kristinn

IRBIL, Iraq — Iraq’s dire situation has gone from bad dream to nightmare in two weeks of fighting that have seen Sunni Muslim gunmen assert control over a growing area, including, Kurdish officials said Tuesday, at least two towns that lie on a crucial supply route linking Baghdad, the capital, with the mostly Shiite Muslim south.

The fall of towns in an area that American troops knew as the “triangle of death” because of its propensity for violence provided an ominous signal, the Kurdish officials said, that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria and its Sunni allies are working to encircle Baghdad.

“The picture is no longer scary,” said Shafin Dizayee, the spokesman for the autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government in Irbil. “It has become close to a nightmare scenario, where we see Daash expanding and taking control of its borders.” “Daash” is the Arabic acronym for ISIS.

Another Kurdish official, Jabbar Yawar, the spokesman for the Kurdish peshmerga militia, said ISIS fighters apparently had seized control of the towns of Iskandariya and Mahmoudiya, south of Baghdad, and were reported in some instances to be just six miles from Baghdad.

“This area controls access to southern Iraq, and it appears as if they might try to push into Baghdad or even south towards the city of Hilla,” he said.

Southern Iraq is mostly Shiite, and it supports the embattled government of Prime Minister Nouri al Malaki. Thousands of young men from the south have flocked to Baghdad to bolster the flagging army, and many observers have assumed that the flow of southern militiamen would help stem an ISIS advance that’s captured much of northern and central Iraq in the weeks since the city of Mosul fell under ISIS control June 10.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; iraq; isis; muslimworld
Good article. More at the source link.
1 posted on 06/24/2014 5:07:02 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Nearly a decade long war, hundreds of billions in American treasure, and over 4,000 American loves lost. Things were reasonably stable there until this idiot Administration decided to walk away.

I hate my government.


2 posted on 06/24/2014 5:10:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: kristinn

Isnt southern Iraq where the oil infrastructure is with access to the Gulf ?

Freightening scenario if they seize that or all access to it.


3 posted on 06/24/2014 5:11:41 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: kristinn

obama needs to go there now


4 posted on 06/24/2014 5:12:01 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: kristinn

Maybe at least they can give al-Sadr his just desserts.


5 posted on 06/24/2014 5:12:44 PM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: kristinn

The EXEMPT US gov’t has trained
every side of these terrorists.
Trained and armed them ... against the American people.

The American people
hate the treasonous EXEMPT in DC for very good reason.


6 posted on 06/24/2014 5:12:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Col Frank Slade

There is oil in the Kurdish controlled areas as well.


7 posted on 06/24/2014 5:14:48 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: kristinn
Looks like the guys that Hussein Obama was arming and threatening to bomb Assad over have a shot at taking Baghdad.

Encircled is not a good place to be.

If they are able to mass a sufficient force and press the attack before reinforcements from Iran show up, Maliki is a goner.

Most likely they will leave the US embassy alone, although I expect there will be lots of taunting going on, and we will have to ask their permission for our people to get out alive.

8 posted on 06/24/2014 5:19:33 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rob the Ugly Dude

Ditto!


9 posted on 06/24/2014 5:23:37 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: kristinn

Oh dear, I hope they don’t capture Kerry.


10 posted on 06/24/2014 5:23:49 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: FES0844
Oh dear, I hope they don’t capture Kerry.

They'd give us 5 terrorists to take him back.

11 posted on 06/24/2014 5:33:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Rome2000

Now the Miliki Iraqis could use those 400 surface to air missiles stolen in Benghazi by terrorists...OH I forgot ISIS are the terrorists.


12 posted on 06/24/2014 5:38:15 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Rome2000
Looks like the guys that Hussein Obama was arming and threatening to bomb Assad over have a shot at taking Baghdad.

The conduct of the Executive branch..."feckless" is as good a word as any, I guess.

13 posted on 06/24/2014 5:39:02 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: Rome2000
Are these the same guys that overran the compound in Benghazi and are using the weapons they stole/received from the CIA?

So many high crimes, so little time.

14 posted on 06/24/2014 5:44:15 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: FES0844

So starts the seige of Baghdad—next they will turn off the elecricity and water-—watch for bombs to go off and aircraft shot down at the airport—the next big battlefield.


15 posted on 06/24/2014 5:55:18 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Rome2000
Most likely they will leave the US embassy alone

Why would you say that? I've seen no sign of compassion or adherence to international norms of behavior from them so far.

Did you watch their video? They are really like mad dogs. I expect they will kill every American then can find.

Obama needs to start the evac now.

16 posted on 06/24/2014 6:10:57 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Rome2000

“Most likely they will leave the US embassy alone, although I expect there will be lots of taunting going on, and we will have to ask their permission for our people to get out alive. “

I would not bet the farm on that happening. These thugs would love nothing better than to be seen parading our embassy people around as hostages. I am very afraid we are going to end up seeing a tragedy unfold on TV if Obama does not evacuate that embassy.


17 posted on 06/24/2014 6:11:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kristinn

Isnt southern Iraq where the oil infrastructure is with access to the Gulf ?

Freightening scenario if they seize that or all access to it.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 6:13:49 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Jack Black
Screwing with our "embassy" forces the USA into the fight.

They are stupid, but not that stupid.

19 posted on 06/24/2014 7:08:42 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000

I don’t know we need embassies in every country. Especially really small and unimportant ones. Whatever happened to sending envoys when they were needed, why do we need full-sized permanent diplomatic presence in so many countries?


20 posted on 06/24/2014 7:09:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I am very afraid we are going to end up seeing a tragedy unfold on TV if Obama does not evacuate that embassy.

It might be too late.

The raghead subhumans have Hussein Obamas minions surrounded.

They don't need hostages, the POTUS is allied.

21 posted on 06/24/2014 7:13:37 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: GeronL
Jon Queri is SOS.

We are screwed.

22 posted on 06/24/2014 7:21:35 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Col Frank Slade

All three sectarian areas of the country have oil fields, but Um Qasr, the port for Basra in the south has the the facilities for loading tanker ships.

They have been competing with the Kuwaitis in a race to upgrade their facilities/capacity for export from there.

Basra is also a major city in Iraq (I believe the third biggest). It was the jewel of the Gulf under the British, before the rise of Dubai. Majority Shia, and close enough to the Iranian border to pop artillery.


23 posted on 06/24/2014 8:01:53 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Most infrastructure outside of the Kurdish areas travel along the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates - roads, power, comms, etc. Something like 90% of the Arab population lives within a few miles of the rivers (walking distance)

If they take both banks of the river South of Baghdad they can cut some significant supply and services.

They will also be crazy close to the Holy city of Karbala, which should be the Shia’s biggest red line.


24 posted on 06/24/2014 8:12:46 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: no-s

What’s worse: more feck or less?


25 posted on 06/24/2014 8:14:50 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: Jack Black
Obama needs to start the evac now.

Cant's evac yet, it's still gay pride month.

26 posted on 06/24/2014 8:20:05 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
Cant's evac yet, it's still gay pride month.

Rarely does someone make me laugh out loud reading FR. Well done, sir!

27 posted on 06/24/2014 9:53:21 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: kristinn; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


28 posted on 06/24/2014 9:54:05 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: GeronL
I don’t know we need embassies in every country. Especially really small and unimportant ones. Whatever happened to sending envoys when they were needed, why do we need full-sized permanent diplomatic presence in so many countries?

Ok, but this isn't Bhutan! There were 150,000 American troops there not that long ago. The Embassy in Iraq is the largest US Embassy in the world. The Embassy sits in the middle of the "Green Zone" which was a large area walled off to prevent terrorist attacks. There are 15,000 employees in American Embassy in Iraq! That's a lot of helicopter rides!

Embassy of the United States, Bagdhad


29 posted on 06/24/2014 10:03:53 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

We were engaged pretty heavily in Iraq, so I get we needed an embassy but that is mighty excessive


30 posted on 06/24/2014 10:50:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lurker

The mistake was going in Iraq in the first place with the insane notion to liberate and giving democracy to muslims which does not work.

I believe in destroying Islam by war, let iraq burn more dead muslims the better. No nation building, no brining democracy and freedom to muslims , just destroy them


31 posted on 06/25/2014 1:30:49 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Dog

Ping


32 posted on 06/25/2014 1:48:26 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Lurker
Things were reasonably stable there until this idiot Administration decided to walk away.

This day was made inevitable the day we invaded Iraq without a plan for victory.

33 posted on 06/25/2014 1:52:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jack Black

Putting 15 000 Americans in the middle of Arabia with the enemy undefeated was the very definition of insanity.


34 posted on 06/25/2014 1:55:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Diogenesis

Stop slandering US service members and the military. We did not train ISIS. We trained FSA. All trainees were ID-d and vetted for terrorist links.

Others may have armed ISIS. I’ve read of Turkey arming them. But we did not train them. Please stop the lies about this.


35 posted on 06/25/2014 3:22:43 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa
I've been following ISIS pretty closely.

Unlike most insurgent armies everywhere in the world they are armed almost exclusively with American arms, everthing from AR pattern rifles to heavier munitions. Some of this may have been captured in Mosoul, but they were already using American arms. Maybe captured somewhere else, but I think there is a lot of reasonable suspicion that the Obama administration armed them as part of their support for the anti-Assad forces in Syria, which they have come to dominate.

So I don't think it's an unfair point to say we have armed them.

They certainly don't seem to fight like an Army trained by Americans, so I doubt we trained them.

36 posted on 06/25/2014 10:55:49 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

So I don’t think it’s an unfair point to say we have armed them.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
Wasn’t AL Qaeda - or a faction of it - initially formed or - at the least - supported— by US to act as Guerrilla Fighters against USSR back in the day?

Many of these factions are supplied and (maybe inadvertently) financed by BOTH sides, dependent on the ‘weather forecast’ for that particular day.


37 posted on 06/25/2014 11:09:52 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Better to keep your enemies inside peeing out, rather than keep them outside, peeing in.".)
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To: Jack Black

Oh, it’s quite unfair to say we armed ISIS. They’re the regeneration of Al-Qaeda in Iraq which was defeated and driven out of Iraq in 2009.

Why don’t you do some simple research before pointing out what’s fair to say or not?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War


38 posted on 06/25/2014 12:31:25 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Jack Black

The US has supported the FSA.

“Also on Wednesday, the U.S. Treasury confirmed it had granted authorization to the Syrian Support Group, Washington representative of one of the most active rebel factions, the Free Syrian Army, to conduct financial transactions on the rebel group’s behalf. The authorization was first reported on Friday by Al-Monitor, a Middle East news and commentary website.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120801

ISIS and the FSA have fought on numerous occasions. They are not allies. ISIS is a regional terrorist group whereas the FSA is a Syrian opposition army lead by former Syrian army officers.


39 posted on 06/25/2014 12:40:42 PM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa
I've done plenty of research. Re-read my post.

It's an easily observed fact that they are using American weapons, and have been for some time. Perhaps they have all been captured from someone else. Or perhaps, the Obama administration has armed them through stupidity. After all, they armed Mexican drug dealers and thought that made sense. Who is to say which group opposed to Assad TeamObama gave US arms to, and how long there were able to hold onto them?

Speaking of research and Wikipedia links, here is what it says about the weapons of ISIS:

Equipment

ISIS has captured and currently uses American weapons, vehicles and uniforms in its operations. ISIS members have been seen wearing the standard US Army Combat Uniform along with Interceptor body armor. For night raids, AN/PVS-7 night vision goggles worn with PASGT helmets are used. Some of the weapons used are M16 rifles, M4 carbines, M203 grenade launchers, M60 machine guns, M240 machine guns, RPGs and surface-to-air Stinger missiles;[94] vehicles used include Humvees, MRAPs, M113 APCs and several T-55 tanks. During the 2014 Northern Iraq offensive, ISIS raided an Iraqi Army base and captured numerous Type 59-1 artillery guns, DShK guns mounted on trucks and several ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns.[95][96]

When ISIS captured Mosul Airport in June 2014, it seized a number of UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters and cargo planes that were stationed there.[97][98] However, according to Peter Beaumont of The Guardian, it seems unlikely that ISIS would be able to deploy them[99] since it has no trained pilots in its ranks.[citation needed]


40 posted on 06/25/2014 3:23:43 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Justa
Or, consider this article. In it we see reported that due to a shortage of arms many FSA fighters are joining ISIS.

The weapons and ammunitions shortage FSA and non-ISIS Islamist fighters are experiencing has been pushing some to lay down their weapons and others to pledge allegiance to ISIS, according to the source.

So it is not at all ill-informed to suggest that we have been arming them, perhaps inadvertently, but also quite predictably. Just as it didn't take a genius to guess that giving AR-15s to Mexican drug cartels would likely result in people being killed with those weapons, it seems kind of obvious that in a fluid multi-force civil war that suppying weapons to one group, which is contending with another, but also somewhat aligned might result in the second group ending up with the weapons.

And that's before we even get to who we have armed in Libya and elsewhere. And not to mention the Iraqi Army, who now are the main source of ISIS weapons, who we certainly armed.

It does not appear they are armed by the Russians, Chinese, French or any other major arms producing country. (IE: They are not using Russian weapons).

41 posted on 06/25/2014 3:32:30 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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