Skip to comments.Religious subjugation? U.S. troops in Bahrain get Ramadan training
Posted on 06/28/2014 7:58:46 AM PDT by don-o
A dhimmi is historically defined as a non-Muslim living in a region overrun by Muslim conquest (notice this does not say living peacefully side-by-side) who was accorded a protected status and residence so long as they understood their subjugated status. If they rendered the jizya tax, they were allowed to retain their original faith. Perhaps this is the Islamic jurist interpretation of coexistence.
Well folks, youll be shocked to know personnel serving in CENTCOM AOR and the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet have succumbed to dhimmitude this Ramadan season.
According to a report in the Stars and Stripes, U.S. personnel accustomed to drinking their coffee on the drive to work will have to put that habit on hold for about a month. Its one of a few lifestyle changes Americans will have to make during the holy month of Ramadan.
Yep, I suppose when in Rome, do as the Romans except we in America ask no one to play that game. I suppose there are those who will say this is a good cultural lesson all about multiculturalism. But it sure seems to me that tolerance is indeed becoming a one-way street heading straight to cultural suicide. Funny, why is it that infidels cant enter Mecca or Medina? That would be like Americans saying certain groups cant be allowed in Washington D.C.
Oh yeah, I can hear all those tolerant liberal progressives saying we dont want to be like them. Nope, we dont. But we dont want to be told to assimilate for others when there is no reciprocal action.
Just as a little background from the report, Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar. Officials expect Ramadan to begin at sunrise on Saturday, depending on when the new moon is sighted. The holy month lasts for approximately 30 days until about July 28. For Muslims around the world, Ramadan is a month of fasting and devotion to God (hmm, notice that the writer of this piece did not use Allah, displaying signs of dhimmitude). Most Muslims fast from dawn to sunset, when families gather for Iftar the meal that breaks the fast.
Stars and Stripes says, for the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility including service members, civilian personnel, contractors and family members the month may require changing some daily routines. While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours.
Navy officials are requiring U.S. personnel to dress more conservatively off-base during Ramadan. Although not a requirement by Bahraini authorities, the Navy is demanding that men wear long-sleeved shirts and women wear sleeved blouses that cover their elbows. Also, men must wear long trousers, and women should wear pants or skirts that cover the knees.
Stars and Stripes reports that base cultural advisers have spent the last few weeks conducting Ramadan briefs to educate Americans about the holy month. Ali Hassan briefed about 150 personnel Tuesday about Islam, the lunar calendar and customs and traditions during Ramadan.
It actually made me want to do a lot more research into the religion, said Petty Officer 1st Class James Ramirez. He said the additional requirements during the month arent a big deal to him. For such a small period of time, its a small sacrifice, he said clearly a victim of dhimmitude.
Here is the list of Ramadan dos and donts for our military personnel as reported by Stars and Stripes (per NSA Bahrain Public Affairs, and Ali Hassan, cultural adviser on NSA Bahrain):
Eating, drinking, chewing and smoking in public are civil offenses in some Islamic countries. Men should wear long sleeves and pants. Womens sleeves should extend below the elbow and pants or skirts should cover the knees. Avoid critical remarks about fasting or any religious practice. Most restaurants will be closed except those in 4- and 5-star hotels. Businesses alter and reduce hours during the day; some open at night until early morning hours. Arabs are good hosts and may offer you food or refreshments during daylight hours. Such offers should be declined. All consumption of alcohol by U.S. military personnel is prohibited at any off base public venue in the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Area of Responsibility during Ramadan. Its customary to say Ramadan Kareem during Ramadan.
Ok, maybe Im being overly sensitive, but when did the U.S. military start religious indoctrination training of its service men and women? Where is our ol buddy Mikey Weinstein on this one? Heck, he got his underwear in knots over a nativity scene in a chow hall at GITMO after all. Our personnel are deployed to these countries to provide security. How about our troops stationed in Japan having to accommodate Shinto customs and practices? What gets me is that even if Muslims are in America they demand us to provide at taxpayer expense foot washing stations, special accommodations at swimming pools, and special considerations of meals at schools.
I have an idea. Why dont we give Judeo-Christian religious training for Muslims in America to abide by Christmas, Easter, Passover, and other traditions of those faiths nah, we wouldnt want to do that, would we? That would be intolerant and somehow violate the separation of church and state, blah, blah, blah.
This may seem irrelevant until you come to realize just how relevant it iss. Submission, subjugation, conversion, or annihilation those were the choices offered by Muhammad in a letter to the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius. And so here we are today.
“Stars and Stripes says, for the 8,200 U.S. personnel living here, and those serving throughout the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility including service members, civilian personnel, contractors and family members the month may require changing some daily routines. While not required to fast during Ramadan, in Bahrain, Americans can be fined or detained by local authorities for eating, drinking or smoking in public when off-base during daylight hours. “
Stop the complaints. The key word in all this, is DETAINED. You should never want to be in a jail in any Arab country, period.
We should not be in Bahrain anyway. It is time to bring our people home.
This was happening back in 2004 when I was in Kuwait for OIF / OEF. I remember we couldn’t roll up our sleeves when walking to the aircraft hangar and back every shift.
We are talking about a country that supplies 90% of the heroine to Europe, and routinely buggers underage boys, so it's not about religious sensitivities.
"Separation of Church and State" does not mean "Separation of Mosque and State."
Screw this cic and allah(may poop be upon him!)
Years ago, I worked for a company that did international mapping projects, some of which were in Muslim countries. Our contracts and sales staff tried to avoid visiting the Muslim countries during Ramadan. The main reasons were because the Big Shots and wealthy mostly traveled to Western countries during Ramadan so as to avoid the daily fasting. Plus, the mid level managers and workers were in bad moods due to the fasting during daylight hours and then staying up late at night filling their faces full of food. They were short of not just food but sleep as well.