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Michael Savage: Rand Paul looks more and more like a Democrat
Mofo Politics ^

Posted on 06/28/2014 2:57:28 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

In hopes of avoiding Chris McDaniel’s fate, Rand Paul has worked tirelessly to shed his image as a fringe, right-wing ideologue.

(SNIP)

"Every day, the guy looks more and more like a Democrat. Every speech he gives, ‘Republicans are too quick to wanna fight…’.

Every day, Rand Paul is showing himself to be the shrimpboat that I always knew he was."

I never trusted him. I liked his father better than him.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: amnesty; chamber; cochran; oneparty; rand; rinos

1 posted on 06/28/2014 2:57:28 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

He may have a point.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 3:00:54 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rubio and Rand should campaign in an ice cream van together. Summer of love for amnesty.

“He’s like a melted carvel that was left in the August sun.”


3 posted on 06/28/2014 3:03:45 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

He may be auditioning for Hillary’s V-P. However, that spot is already taken by Julian Castro, the Communist mayor of San Antonio, to capture the Brown vote. If Fidel had had a son.....


4 posted on 06/28/2014 3:06:25 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

5 posted on 06/28/2014 3:06:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Yep. He sounded good a for a brief while but didn’t know when to shut up.

I guess he thought he could win over a few republicans and then run as a democrat. He’s lost me for good.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 3:10:36 PM PDT by boycott
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
I think he's trying to avoid being his father. Mr. 10%.

Like it or not the model for successful GOP Presidential nominees is Romney, McCain, Bush Jr, Dole, Bush Sr, Reagan, Nixon, Goldwater.

His dad's brand needed a lot of expanding if he's going to get on that list.

Really only Reagan jumps out as a successful conservative from that list.

The most conservative candidates don't win the nomination, and neither do the most libertarian. The "most electable" middle of the road types do.

This is why I have been suggesting that FR try to coalesce early around someone if we don't want Jeb, Rubio or Fatso being our Nominee. Any of those three would fit right into the above list, and add to the list of nominee-losers in my estimation.

My sense is that Ted Cruz is the current favorite of a lot of Freepers. (And Palin, of course.)

7 posted on 06/28/2014 3:15:57 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: txrefugee

No Crispy has nailed down Hitlery’s VP spot. :-)


8 posted on 06/28/2014 3:16:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“....the shrimpboat that I always knew he was.”

I give up, what is meant by “shrimpboat”?


9 posted on 06/28/2014 3:16:36 PM PDT by jocon307 (These people are (some Polish word) crazy)
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To: All

It’s not that he sounds like a Democrat that bothers Savage, it’s that he sounds like Barry Goldwater... a Paleo-Con. That’s a position that desperately needs to be heard in this fast disintegrating republic. Our only hope is drastically smaller government, less regulation,, fewer foreign entanglements, and a general roll-back for Washington.

That disappoints Savage and his ilk, who thrive on the government teat.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 3:16:44 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

While the slang term *****boat Mr Weiner used is vulgar, disgusting and wholly inappropriate and typical for the jerk that Weiner is... I can’t say I have any desire to support Rand Paul these days.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 3:16:57 PM PDT by A message
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Savage ping


12 posted on 06/28/2014 3:19:38 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Finally, something on which I can agree with Savage.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 3:20:48 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do nything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“I never trusted him. I liked his father better than him.”

Two nuts off of the same tree.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 3:21:55 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: A message

I think he meant Forrest Gump.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 3:24:32 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

What he said and “Forrest Gump” are worlds apart. He lives in San Fransicko, he knows what he said and it is messed up.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 3:29:01 PM PDT by A message
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Well, no. He’s a true Libertarian which have quite a bit in common with the Dims. Maybe I’m just playing semantics here.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 3:32:31 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

He looks more and more like his dad. He was good at pretending.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 3:35:13 PM PDT by Defiant (Obama is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan's John the Baptist, preparing the way.)
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To: Gunpowder green
That disappoints Savage and his ilk, who thrive on the government teat.

Hmm, I don't get that from Savage. I think he might like a Paleocon nominee. Why do you say Savage thrives on the government teat?

One of the main things I associate Savaage with is his long running "Borders, Culture and Language" motto. With it he has been in the forefront of the immigration restrictionist movement, which is a signature Paleocon position.

Rand seems to have a lot more liberal views on immigration, which is in keeping with his more libertarian background.

Goldwater has some libertarian background too. I would almost say Savage is more Paleo than Goldwater. But maybe we are using the term a little differently.

The nice thing about NeoConservatism is that Irving Kristol (Bill's father) nicely wrote a book about it. So it's easy to understand what it is.

For the sake of discussion here is the Wikipedia entry on Paleoconservatism:

Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleocon) is a conservative political philosophy found primarily in the United States stressing tradition, limited government, civil society, anti-colonialism and anti-federalism, along with religious, regional, national and Western identity.[1][2] Paleoconservatism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line[3] although critics have disputed this.[4]

Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often highlight their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially regarding issues such as military interventionism, illegal immigration and large amounts of legal immigration, multiculturalism, affirmative action, and foreign aid, to which they are opposed.[1] They also criticize social welfare and social democracy, which some refer to as the "therapeutic managerial state",[5] the "welfare-warfare state"[6] or "polite totalitarianism".[7] They see themselves as the legitimate heirs to the American conservative tradition.[8]

That laundry list sounds like a week of Michael Savage, although perhaps he is a bit more of a war monger than the typical Paleo. Wouldn't Pat Buchanan be the dean of the paleocons, now?
19 posted on 06/28/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rand Paul’s head is detached. This ars is a liberal democrat all the way.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 3:37:57 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rand is more dangerous than his father...


21 posted on 06/28/2014 3:43:50 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Hollywood...Washington DC for pretty people)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

10-4


22 posted on 06/28/2014 3:54:53 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I agree but still don’t like you Michael.


23 posted on 06/28/2014 3:55:15 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Jack Black

George W. isn’t a junior, and Paul is sounding nutty because he is becoming more open about his libertarianism, which also happens to sound liberal and democratic.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 4:01:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: ansel12

You just popped up at the top of a general listing. This isn’t a “stalk.” It is just one of 1,000,001 reminders: to you every small-l libertarian message sounds “liberal and democratic.” If you can’t hear the music please don’t presume everyone else can’t either.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 4:03:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

The Obama foreign policy train wreck, from Ukraine and Iraq to ISIS and Al Queda strengthening, is destroying the idea of Paul as a serious contender.

His foreign policy is a non starter in the GOP at such a dangerous time. He’s to the left of Obama. Plus he’s even starting to act fruity domestically with his call for felons voting and his ho hum attitude toward the race baiting in Mississippi.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 4:25:32 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“He may have a point.”

He may indeed.

I originally had some hope for Rand Paul, but lately the guy just comes off as a flake.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 4:54:27 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Is - no question.


28 posted on 06/28/2014 5:08:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Paul is trying to widen his appeal — by being all things to all people.

The trouble is that he is spreading himself so thin that there is little substance remaining.

He is doing the ole dipsy-doodle fast-foot shuffle. Don’t like his stand on an issue today? Just wait a couple of days and he will have another stand on that issue.


29 posted on 06/28/2014 5:27:54 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Rubio’s getting better….Rand much worse. They’re going in opposite directions.


30 posted on 06/28/2014 5:37:29 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Gunpowder green

that’s way too charitable on your part. You lose your cred with his open borders stance, and his votings rights crapola. More dem than paleo.


31 posted on 06/28/2014 5:38:43 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m not aware of his stance on open borders or voting, but my own stance is that the borders should be tighter than East Germany, and anyone who can’t show an ID can’t vote.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 5:46:58 PM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Yeah, but Rubio is just like McCain and Grahamnesty. He has amnesty in his craw and he will push for it every chance he gets.

Shumer and McCain didn’t dupe him in the Gang of 8. He joined because he believes in the same thing they do.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 5:47:55 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ansel12
I don't think being Libertarian sounds very Democratic. Democrats are all about two things: socialism and statism. Those are two things Libertarians detest.

More and more Democrats are really coming out of the closet as full on authoritarians. It used to be that the GOP was the part that was accused (somewhat rationally) of harboring nascent authoritarian tendencies. But the Dems have definately grabbed the baton on that now.

If you have the stomach read the Drudge story on Oregon's mandatory blood forcible blood testing of suspected DUIs. It's really gross. And Oregon is totally controlled by the Donks, so they own it. (And of course there are matching Federal funds to implement this BS.)

34 posted on 06/28/2014 6:00:18 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

Libertarians are rightly known as being social liberals and weak on defense, it is why they oppose conservatism.

Rand Paul sounds like a democrat because of his libertarianism.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 6:08:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: ansel12
"George W. isn’t a junior" ... I was using it informally, I know it's not part of his legal name.

Generational suffixes are used to distinguish persons who share the same name within a family. A generational suffix can be used informally (for disambiguation purposes, or as nicknames) and is often incorporated in legal documents.

I guess they use "41" and "43" in the family, but that's pretty obscure.


36 posted on 06/28/2014 6:09:12 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

Liberals convinced much of America that President George W. Bush is a junior, he isn’t.


37 posted on 06/28/2014 6:11:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: ansel12
To me a "social liberal" is someone who wants social programs for everything, a position that libertarians don't hold.

A lot of supposed conservatives, however, have made their peace with the welfare state and strongly support programs like Social Security that were anathema to the conservatives of the FDR era, for instance.

As I pointed out on a thread last week there is a long history of the GOP being non-interventionist, including many prominent GOP politicians opposing US entry into WW1, and involvement in WW2 prior to Pearl Harbor. You might disagree with these positions, but to characterize them as "liberal" and "Democratic" is historically inaccurate.

The proclivity for starting wars when not essential as many feel Bush (the younger) did - comes from the neoconservative outlook. Although, TR was a bellicose militarist too, and a Republican.

38 posted on 06/28/2014 6:18:01 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

That’s nice that you make up your own definitions.

Now to get back to Rand Paul and his revealing more of his libertarianism as he moves to the left on abortion, gay marriage, the border, social issues, defense etc.


39 posted on 06/28/2014 6:25:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I agree.. he’s coming across more liberal than Jeb... lots more liberal.


40 posted on 06/28/2014 7:13:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (Losing a battle doesnÂ’t mean losing the war... Freeper livius)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

He is like his father in some ways. They each have this thing about our right as a nation for national defense. The more that I see of him; Rand comes across as a pretender. Just wait a few days, his stances will change to whichever audience that he addresses. It is the biggest mistake to please liberals like the republican establishment does. He can leave the Republican party any time now. I thought he would be a let down when he showed his support for drones in this country against the citizenry; though before he seemed against that. He was for traditional marriage. Now, he’s evolving for some support!? Just don’t pretend what your convictions or stances are to be.


41 posted on 06/28/2014 8:38:15 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: GeronL

Mike should know what motivates Democrats...


42 posted on 06/28/2014 11:59:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: a fool in paradise

exactly


43 posted on 06/29/2014 12:38:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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