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Judge throws out George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 06/30/2014 | By Rene Stutzman

Posted on 06/30/2014 8:55:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/30/2014 10:00:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Sanford judge today put an end to George Zimmerman's libel suit against NBC Universal.

Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson ruled that the former Neighborhood Watch volunteer is entitled to no money from the media giant.

She issued a summary judgment in the network's favor, meaning that unless an appeals court reverses her, the case is now dead.


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To: SeekAndFind

This is hooey, because she was Zimmerman’s trial judge. Having her hear his civil litigation is so conflicted that it is just a circus. He could appeal the case on this fact alone.


61 posted on 06/30/2014 11:26:00 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Objective Scrutator
"After all the crap Zimmerman’s faced, he should have every right to become a sovereign citizen. That he hasn’t yet should prove to naysayers just how much he loves his country."

That he doesn't done what yet?

62 posted on 06/30/2014 11:38:40 AM PDT by mlo
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To: SeekAndFind

Affirmative action judge, or a limp wrist?


63 posted on 06/30/2014 12:16:41 PM PDT by alstewartfan (The word is on the street growing day by day, Even the informers know to stay away. Al Stewart)
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To: Objective Scrutator
Can you amplify on your assertion that Zimmerman is not a sovereign citizen of the U.S.? Thanks.

Leni

64 posted on 06/30/2014 1:37:20 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Infernal Revenue Service - forever to be known as the BS-IRS)
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To: mlo
Zimmerman should look into becoming a sovereign citizen.
I personally wouldn't recommend doing this unless you are facing 24/7 persecution (I am not a sovereign citizen nor do I see any reason to become one in the future), but it is a movement which shouldn't be handwoven away (moonbat liberal groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center hate the sovereign citizen movement, which should lend it automatic legitimacy). When the illegitimate squatter in the White House explicitly allies himself with the teenage thug, what reaction would you have? When you consider that Hussein Soetoro is not satisfied with the ruling and is doubtlessly trying to have a government agency extort or kidnap Zimmerman, could you blame Zimmerman for becoming a sovereign citizen?
George Zimmerman refuses to become a sovereign citizen because he is optimistic for America's future. He selflessly gave his life for the protection of his community, and continues to be a model citizen.
65 posted on 06/30/2014 1:38:50 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: MinuteGal

Read reply 65. “Sovereign citizen” means “refusing to recognize the legitimacy of the US government” in the context I’m using it in. Given the circumstances he’s in, I wouldn’t blame him for becoming one, though I do not seek to become one and would not recommend that course of action for most people.


66 posted on 06/30/2014 1:41:19 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: ErnBatavia

The “Judge” looks like a MAN. Does she need some ESTROGEN? Enough to soak in?


67 posted on 06/30/2014 2:09:02 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Objective Scrutator
Do you walk to work or carry your lunch>

Leni

68 posted on 06/30/2014 2:09:58 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Infernal Revenue Service - forever to be known as the BS-IRS)
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To: bramps

I take it you think George had no case? Or did I read this wrong


69 posted on 06/30/2014 2:10:15 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

A federal employee can’t let the federal government’s propaganda network be shown up, now can she?


70 posted on 06/30/2014 2:16:36 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: MinuteGal
Uh, I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. The sovereign citizen movement refuses to pay taxes on the basis that they are illegitimate, and also refuse to follow laws on the basis that they are illegitimate. Certainly, all taxation IS illegitimate, but I and most other people pay taxes because we don't want to get mowed down by the IRS. Many of the laws in America ARE illegitimate, but we follow them anyways because we don't want to be mowed down by government lunatics. The sovereign citizen movement is mutually exclusive from "citizen of the United States".
71 posted on 06/30/2014 2:25:49 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Sorry, that’s crackpot stuff. Sounds like a variation of the old tax protesters. You don’t get to decalare yourself some “sovereign citizen” outside the rule of law and still live here. You can leave the country if you want, but this sovereign citizen nonsense is just that.


72 posted on 06/30/2014 2:31:58 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

If you read my post more carefully, I don’t believe that most people in the sovereign citizen movement have a legitimate reason in declaring themselves sovereign citizens. The government’s persecution of Zimmerman, despite his unwavering adherence to the law, would give him ethical and legal legitimacy in doing so. Why obey a government which ignores its own laws?

Are you going to adhere to the “rule of law” if the liberals ever manage to pass through a law stating that the government is allowed to seize guns by force, and the Supreme Court upholds that decision? Would you be so eager to pay taxes if the government explicitly funded abortion, and removed the 1977 Hyde Amendment? (The 1993 expansion actually does permit funding for rape/incest abortions, and I don’t blame people who refuse to help pay for those.) If the EPA forbade you from using a lawnmower to cut your grass (and knowing them, they will definitely do this if they are allowed to), would you obey them?

There’s plenty of evidence that the 16th Amendment was passed illegitimately. Hopefully, you at least recognize that it’s unethical.


73 posted on 06/30/2014 3:22:16 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Friendofgeorge

No, you read it right. I just did a sloppy job wording my post and I thank you for alerting me. I was referring to me as the ‘poster’ who was calling the judge a knucklehead for erroneously deciding facts. I absolutely think Zimmerman has a case and hope the bad decision is reversed on appeal.


74 posted on 06/30/2014 3:36:18 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Objective Scrutator
"If you read my post more carefully, I don’t believe that most people in the sovereign citizen movement have a legitimate reason in declaring themselves sovereign citizens."

It doesn't matter if you think someone has a legitimate reason. There is no such thing as a "sovereign citizen". It's made up crap.

It doesn't matter whether you like the law. That's why it's the law. It's not voluntary.

75 posted on 06/30/2014 3:50:32 PM PDT by mlo
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To: DisorderOnBorder

Many Judges today just do not have morals or ethics, and only care about their own legacy and their political agenda.


76 posted on 06/30/2014 4:01:54 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zimmerman is a public figure, Levine said, and could not prove that he was the victim of “actual malice”, meaning that NBC employees either knew what they reported was false or had serious misgivings about it.

In her ruling, issued shortly before 9 a.m. today, Nelson wrote that that’s where Zimmerman’s suit fell apart.

“There exists absolutely no clear and convincing evidence that defendants knew that the information published was false at the time it was published, or recklessly disregarded the truth or falsity of those statements. …,” she wrote.

He was a public figure because he was pilloried in public, based on those fake audios. Did the people preparing the audios know that they were fake when they were faking them, or did they have serious misgivings about faking them?


77 posted on 06/30/2014 4:02:34 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: mlo

Maybe you can take it on the cheek if Soetoro decides to try his hand at seizing the guns of law-abiding citizens with the support of a moonbat Supreme Court, but I won’t. George Zimmerman won’t. I’m sure most FReepers won’t. There’s always the potential for American freedom and American democracy to be eroded, and there ought to always be the potential for us to refuse to comply.

Anyone who would refuse to respect a gun-grabbing law would be a sovereign citizen, and in that very specific context, a patriot.


78 posted on 06/30/2014 4:13:33 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Eleutheria5

Isn’t it a ridiculous assertion, that within a month;s time, and while you are on trial, and presumed innocent until proven guilty, you can become a “public figure” instead of an ordinary citizen?

That is laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

Nelson needs to be disbarred.She is a noxious boil on the judiciary system.


79 posted on 06/30/2014 4:23:29 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Like saying a lynching victim is a public figure because he was lynched. I can’t imagine this being upheld after appeals.


80 posted on 06/30/2014 4:25:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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