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5 Major Takeaways From The Hobby Lobby Decision
The Federalist ^
| June 30, 2014
| Sean Davis
Posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:52 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:15:52 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
Hobby Lobby owners noted that they also felt compelled by their religious beliefs to provide health insurance to their employees including coverage for 16 different types of contraception (Hobby Lobbys objection was to mandated abortifacient coverage). This is an important distinction which the mainstream media is not addressing. Ping!
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:16:49 PM PDT
by
NYer
("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
To: BuckeyeTexan
Notice the excerpted comment above. This is an important distinction which is being ignored by the mainstream media.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:19:25 PM PDT
by
NYer
("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
To: NYer
Hardly anything reported about this case in the MSM is correct. Betcha hardly any of them know the opinion is based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act passed by Congress, not the First Amendment.
To: NYer
**One of the main reasons the Obama administrations arguments failed to convince five justices is that the federal government did not necessarily need to mandate employer-provided contraceptive coverage in order to ensure access to contraceptive coverage. For example, rather than mandating employer coverage, the government could have easily established its own program to provide or pay for contraceptive coverage:**
And it may happen that the government will pay for such contraceptive coverage......guess whose pocket that comes out of?
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:21:05 PM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: NYer
Fact: A liberal 5-4 Supreme Court decision.
Liberal reaction: "Settled law!!!"
Fact: A conservative 5-4 Supreme Court decision.
Liberal reaction: "Activist right-wing judges!!! Shredding the Constitution!!! George Bush!!! American Taliban!!! Fascism!!!"
To: NYer
Thanks, Justice Roberts, for creating this mess.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:33:33 PM PDT
by
ilgipper
To: NYer
Good summary. While today's court decision was drawn along very narrow lines, I believe they've opened an enormous hole in the ObamaCare mandate for many private employers. In this particular case one of the employers did not object to providing contraceptive coverage in general (only abortifacients), but the court's exact same reasoning would apply to another employer whose religious morals dictated that no coverage for contraceptives could be provided.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:38:13 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: NYer
This decision was actually a near total loss for conservatives.
To: ilgipper
Many of us were pretty dismissive of the Court’s prior ruling because we recognized that there were far more solid legal grounds for mounting a challenge to ObamaCare (the First Amendment arguments in this case, for example) than the prior case that had been brought before the court. Today’s decision supports my earlier contention about the prior case.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:40:27 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: nickcarraway
And maybe it is, if people keep depending on humans.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:40:50 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: nickcarraway
I’m not sure how you’d make that case, but I’m happy to see what you mean by it.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:41:25 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: NYer
The Hobby Lobby owners seem to be nice, decent people. God bless them.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:42:14 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Alberta's Child
In the very BEST of manmade efforts at morality, stands the possibility of it going completely south.
I don’t think this is any new observation.
In terms of power, Demons > Man.
However also, God > Demons.
The answer is quit hoping in man and start looking to God to take advantage of WHATEVER situation you get. I believe it is quite clear that something of God showed through this one. Let’s not let that ball just sit there. Let’s ask the Lord how to run with it.
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posted on
06/30/2014 4:45:32 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: Alberta's Child
Good summary. While today's court decision was drawn along very narrow lines, I believe they've opened an enormous hole in the ObamaCare mandate for many private employers. In this particular case one of the employers did not object to providing contraceptive coverage in general (only abortifacients), but the court's exact same reasoning would apply to another employer whose religious morals dictated that no coverage for contraceptives could be provided. One of the holes would seem, in the opinion of this non-professional observer, to be that people will not be treated equally under this (tax) law.
Yes, Justice Roberts created a mess.
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06/30/2014 4:52:12 PM PDT
by
IncPen
(None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
To: NYer
I would call this barely a win. Basically, a company that provided contraceptives didn’t have to provide a few abortifacients. While at the same time the oligarchs deemed that those with other medical religious objections wouldn’t necessarily be protected. So in effect they decided that there is politically correct religious objection, and politically incorrect religious objection.
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06/30/2014 5:25:21 PM PDT
by
RKBA Democrat
(Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
To: RKBA Democrat
all that plus ... the ruling actually suggested how the feds get around this ... by providing abortion drug coverage themselves. The fact that the Supreme Court has no problem with the federal government confiscating taxes, buying abortion drugs and handing them out is problematic to me to say the least
To: IncPen
People are already not treated equally under this (tax) law. That was one of the factors Alito cited in his opinion: he pointed out that it’s ludicrous for the HHS to argue the case on “equal protection” grounds in this case when they’ve already granted ObamaCare waivers to millions of Americans.
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posted on
06/30/2014 6:12:42 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: HiTech RedNeck
My sense is that there are quite a few upstanding, moral business owners out there who didn’t much care how the court ruled in this case because they had no intention of abiding by any stupid ObamaCare mandates anyway.
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posted on
06/30/2014 6:14:35 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
To: Alberta's Child
And that’s very fine, but ultimately man’s efforts alone to keep up some sort of good morality are going to fail.
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posted on
06/30/2014 6:15:58 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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