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Stop calling Hobby Lobby a Christian business
The Week ^ | June 17, 2014

Posted on 07/01/2014 7:52:13 AM PDT by Wolfie

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To: Wolfie

Libs want the money and the pedophile style. What else is the point of this article but free sexual exploitation and attafking of anyone rejecting the abortion invite.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 8:13:32 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Wolfie

I agree somewhat. Evervsince I watched Death By China (on Netfix now I think) I have been extremely bothered. But it, s almost impossible to break the MIC addiction. Ex., I need a new toilet brush, have been looking for 3 mos. Now haxe a bad ring around the bowl, looks like third world in my commode. Posting from s. Korean galxy tab.


22 posted on 07/01/2014 8:16:03 AM PDT by Sally ("This is the only Administration I've ever been in where it's 100% politics 100% of the time.")
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To: Wolfie
The Bible is replete with calls for economic justice. Can you call yourself a "Christian business" when you leverage your profits to support an economic system that blatantly perpetuates injustice?

The "bottom line" profit isn't even at issue here.

If HL refused to source products from China or other low-wage countries, it would have to raise its prices to much higher than competitors, and would quickly be put out of business. It's not a "how much money can I stick in my pocket" type of question. It's a "will I be in business next year" question

Largely because Americans and others have been willing to do business with China (and other low-wage countries), the world absolute poverty rate was cut in half from 1990 to 2010. That's over a billion more people who have something, at least, above bare subsistence now. That improvement is enormously greater than any other period in history.

So because China does not presently meet our standards for treatment of workers, we should refuse to buy their products? How does the author expect China to ever become able to meet our standards?

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21578643-world-has-astonishing-chance-take-billion-people-out-extreme-poverty-2030-not

23 posted on 07/01/2014 8:20:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Wolfie

Trotting out the Walmart attack.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 8:20:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How true. Total desperation.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 8:23:22 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Wolfie

Another of N examples (where N is a very large number) where the term “liberal logic” is once again shown to be an oxymoron.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 8:27:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: rjsimmon

He’s talking about the Karl Marx bible.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 8:29:33 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: clintonh8r

hardly a peep outta them about the USSC slapping down their unions though.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 8:30:22 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: rjsimmon
Where? I have read the Bible numerous times and have never seen this in any manifestation. Christ told us to remember the poor, not once did He mandate that we should perpetuate their plight. His first and foremost consideration was their eternal soul. Aside from that, render unto Caesar.

hear, hear! and what better way to remember the poor than to purchase their goods? when i go to the little town of Rosarito in Mexico, should i ignore the little boy selling chicle? would that be charitable? whoever came up with "libtard" hit the nail on the head...

29 posted on 07/01/2014 8:30:37 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Wolfie

“The Bible is replete with calls for economic justice.” No, the Bible is replete with calls for righteousness. Too often people who are ignorant of both the Bible and economics seek to cloak their idea of what is fair in terms that redefine righteousness and sound economics.

For example, two of the Ten Commands directly relate to property, the ones that forbid coveting and theft. When someone suggests taking from one party and giving to another, that theft is justified by the lie that justice is served by the coveting and theft. This is just sin dressed up in social justice.

When dealing with a supplier, the relationship is economic. While I may care for the working conditions of others, that is their private business, not mine. There is a delineation between the things under my control that I am responsible for and the things that others are responsible for. And in particular, it is quite a stretch to hold the seller of a good responsible for all the actions of his supplier, especially when the buyer makes his expectations clear at the time of the contract.

Now, the buyer might be a well-respected brand that places subjective value on their public reputation. While third-world working conditions are hardly ever good, it reflects life in their third world. Indeed, why there is a “third world”. The issue is far more broadly local, political and social.

Disney alone has over a thousand suppliers in the third world, so many that they can’t even audit them regularly. While it could cause Disney to have their brand tarnished when some worker abuse reaches the national news, Disney never would direct workers to be abused, or sanction any abuse. Often contracts are sub-contracted without any knowledge on the part of the national brand buyer. The buyer has almost zero control over many of the places where their products are made and even less leverage in controlling relationships between worker and supplier.

In short, only the people in Pakistan or Vietnam can resolve their own issues. No national brand can. Brands can at best take steps to avoid the worst abusers.

I speak as having been an adviser to a company that facilitates workers in third-world countries to communicate workplace violence and safety issues to their first-world buyers.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 8:31:03 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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31 posted on 07/01/2014 8:33:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: Wolfie

So, the author is in the habit of looking at the label of every consumer item to see where it is made. And when it is made in China, the author does not buy it. Riiight.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 8:36:26 AM PDT by lurk
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To: clintonh8r
“The leftards haven’t been this twisted up since, well, since the last time they didn’t get their way....”

The New York Times today had an hysterical (and, as usual, inaccurate) editorial on the Hobby Lobby decision.

33 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:46 AM PDT by riverdawg
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The truth about Hobby Lobby. Although they offer other avenues of contraception to their employees, they would not support the mandated abortion and abortifacients (Morning after pill and other products that destroy an embryo -- already fertilized.).

It's that simple because they are a closely held (family) business that believes and lives their religion in their business. They even play religious music in their stores. (And not just at Christmas!)

God bless them.

PS. This does not apply to corporations, etc. as the libs would have you believe.

 


34 posted on 07/01/2014 8:54:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Wolfie

Of course the real issue is not whether Hobby Lobby is genuinely “Christian” or not.

The issue is whether or not a person, or a family which owns and operates a business, has religious liberty as stated in the First Amendment, to operate said business according to their religious values and beliefs. And, can that business be forced by the government to violate their religious beliefs? The SCOTUS just said, No.

Of course, this should also have implications regarding laws forcing business owners to do business with “same-sex” couples for same-sex weddings, even though doing so violates their religious beliefs that doing so would support a behavior they believe to be a sin against God.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 8:54:54 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Wolfie
By this twit’s logic the Teamsters are hypocrites too. Their members stock the shelves and ring up the sales at Costco. What about the “working man” in China that make the goods the stores sell? Isn't the Union in solidarity?
36 posted on 07/01/2014 9:11:55 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Thanks to the LIBERAL Clinton who signed NAFTA and gave CHINA Most Favored Nation Status flinging wide open the spigot of cheap labor products, as well as ridiculous minimum wage and regulations on business, It is virtually impossible to find anything NOT made in China.

Cork Soaking Apple Holes!


37 posted on 07/01/2014 9:32:39 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Wolfie

This article is pure Alinsky.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 9:35:54 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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So now the democrat fascists, having made it next to impossible to run a competitive business in the US, pretend that if you purchase the products that can't be made here from wherever they are still made, you're not Christian.

Top that with the fact that this new line of BS is all coming about because the democrat fascist eugenics crowd is afraid that they won't be able to murder infants in the womb fast enough without forced funding of such murders.

Well, thank God we have infant slaughtering, perversion loving, pagan, democrat fascist, liars to define how a Christian should do behave so we're not cast adrift to rely on the Word of God and two thousand years of Christian teaching.

39 posted on 07/01/2014 11:35:53 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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