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50 years of landmark Civil Rights Act reshaped U.S.; Time to pay its slave debt
The Vancouver Sun ^ | July 1, 2014 | William Marsden

Posted on 07/01/2014 2:06:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

'Reparations are long overdue'

Ed Dorn, 69, dates back to the Class of ’64. He is a member of the last generation of African Americans to have completed their entire primary and secondary education in segregated schools.

He graduated from his Houston high school just before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave him and the U.S. an entirely new future.

So when he headed to the University of Texas it was his first experience of integration. Blacks may have numbered only about 300 in a student body of 25,000 whites, but that didn’t matter. A new world beckoned.

“I didn’t experience concrete changes,” Dorn recalled in an interview. “What I experienced was more a kind of psychological change. The civil rights act settled one huge ambiguity and that had to do with the status of African Americans in the U.S. For the first time the federal government said, yes, African Americans are to be considered full-fledged citizens of the United States.”

Until that moment, he had lived inside a black community whose limits were dictated by an array of so-called Jim Crow laws that, since the Civil War, racist state and local governments had imposed with viselike effects.

“You grew up in an environment where things just happened as a matter of course,” he said. “These are the schools you are supposed to attend and, to a lesser extent, these are the ambitions you are expected to have. These are the things you can do. You might expect to go to college but certain professions may be closed off to you.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at vancouversun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: blacks; civilrights; reparations
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1 posted on 07/01/2014 2:06:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

An editorial in a Canadian paper about US slave reparations?


2 posted on 07/01/2014 2:07:53 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The president that pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1964, with the help of Republicans, is the same president that ensured that the welfare state would do what the Jim Crow Laws could no longer do...................


3 posted on 07/01/2014 2:10:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,752 threads and 85,005 replies. ..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s remember that Democrats were at the center of the establishment of Jim Crow laws and never let the discussion of reparations pass without throwing that on the table.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 2:10:39 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I approve of slavery reparations in the following amounts:

$10,000,000 tax free for each and every individual who was held in slavery in this country while slavery was legal.

$5,000,000 tax free for every individual who has at least one biological parent who was held in slavery in this country while slavery was legal.

Everyone else needs to get a job and STFU.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 2:11:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: mojito

There, I added a comment to that lonely website


6 posted on 07/01/2014 2:11:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: WayneS

lol


7 posted on 07/01/2014 2:12:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: WayneS

PS - Individuals must still be among the living and must be able to prove their status in order to collect reparations.


8 posted on 07/01/2014 2:13:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We ALREADY paid our “slave debt” IN RIVERS OF BLOOD over 150 years ago.

Not a damn thing more from me.

They have sold themselves back into the slavery of the Democrat party for EBT cards. They can suck it.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 2:14:26 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think Whitey has more than paid reparations to the descendants of slavery through decades of welfare & subsidies to the point education, family & achievement have been lost.

We even freed Sheila Jackson Lee!

10 posted on 07/01/2014 2:15:45 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m all in favor of making the Democrats pay reparations for what they did.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 2:21:01 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give them a once-per-lifetime choice:

1. No reparations and welfare.

2. Reparations and no welfare.

One or the other. Not both.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 2:21:06 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Unfortunately courts will simply overturn it and give them both


13 posted on 07/01/2014 2:22:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there is one organization that owes reparations in America, it is the Democratic Party. No other organization has benefited from slavery and the oppression of blacks more than the Dems. No other organization has done more to terrorize blacks (by forming and protecting the KKK) and oppress them through legal means like Jim Crow laws. Let’s see the Dem Party pay $100 million a year to blacks. Then we can talk about everyone else doing so.


14 posted on 07/01/2014 2:23:25 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Fresh Wind
To Hell with "reparations", and to Hell with welfare.

We must quit pillaging the Productive Class to support a Parasite Class. Let the obese thieves of the Parasite Class do something useful for a living, or starve. They're destroying America.

15 posted on 07/01/2014 2:23:50 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just

no.


16 posted on 07/01/2014 2:24:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A fine black wine is poured. I think the blacks should pay reparations to America for fighting a bloody Civil War to free them from slavery.


17 posted on 07/01/2014 2:26:52 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Canada. Go talk to England, eh? They were sold by Arabs and England shipped them here.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 2:27:11 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes plenty of comments!
“Until that moment, he had lived inside a black community whose limits were dictated by an array of so-called Jim Crow laws that, since the Civil War, racist state and local governments had imposed with viselike effects.”

Today most blacks still live inside a black community. Why?
Today most blacks vote in bloc for the Democrat Party. You know the Party that started the KKK. The party that did not vote for desegragation. The party that still treats them as if they can not make it on their own. So WHY???
As to reparations you can stick that where the sun won’t hit it... None of my family was muslim pirates or black in Africa that captured and sold blacks to the dutch and others. None of my family going back as many generations as we were able to trace ever owned a slave, bought a slave sold a slave etc. We did have one relative fight and get wounded in the Civil War. So no. You are not handing out any of my tax dollars to anyone that has been voting for the very people that hold them back for the past 150 years. That has nothing to do with me.......


19 posted on 07/01/2014 2:28:19 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only “reparations” that should be offered should be vouchers for one-way flights to Liberia. The vouchers will be redeemed at the Amerian Embassy when the recipient renounces his American citzenship, fills out the forms and surrenders his American passport.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I may be bad, but every time I hear of reparations, I think of the movie “Cat Ballou” where Kid Shelleen almost drank himself to death.

“You could have killed him giving him fifty dollars cash at one time!”


21 posted on 07/01/2014 2:34:18 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When their ancestors were freed, they had the option to return to Africa, to a country named Liberia which was established for freed slaves. Some did, others chose to remain.

The decedents of those who chose to remain have no claim to reparations. Besides, reparations won't fix what their complaint is - that their ancestors were forced to come here as slaves. Only returning to Africa will right that wrong.

22 posted on 07/01/2014 2:36:38 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They will never be happy. No amount of "reparations" will be enough. Not even the enslavement of every white man, and distribution of every white man's daughters to the rappers will be enough.

Don't even bother to try.

23 posted on 07/01/2014 2:45:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: WayneS

Since the US is still paying a couple of Civil War pensions to children of Union soldiers, I suspect there might be a couple who would qualify for your second category.

Assuming a man born into slavery in 1865 fathered a child at the age of 70, that child would be 79 years old this year.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 3:16:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: mojito
An editorial in a Canadian paper about US slave reparations?

Um, don't the Canucks have their own little history with their indigenous people? Seems to me they should concentrate on their own house instead of telling others how to keep theirs.

25 posted on 07/01/2014 3:30:59 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was recently talking with a man who has spent his professional life in public education. He worked tirelessly for Blacks’ civil rights. He was talking about how the system has failed. I asked him “What is the solution?”

Without hesitating he said “Segregation.” Lots of black educators he knows say the same thing.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 3:33:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: Mastador1

The Canadians also interred the Japanese in WWII under conditions far more punitive and primitive than prevailed in the US. Most Canadians, of course, aren’t too keen on talking about it, as they much prefer clucking over US misdeeds, real and imagined.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 4:24:06 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: WayneS

I have simplified it even more: Kiss my lily white non slave owning azz.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 4:27:53 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let the bastards collect it from themselves; it is far more likely that their ancestors bought, sold, or owned slaves than mine, since mine were poor Welsh who came over here after the Civil War. There are tens of millions more like me, who are white but have no descendant that have ever owned slaves, do these idiots think all the white people came over on the Mayflower?


29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:47:06 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: All

Brown v. Board of Education decision was issued in 1954. Article (what I read of it, anyway) doesn’t make sense.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 11:09:33 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (Democrats:the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What-- five trillion "Great Society" dollars weren't enough?
31 posted on 07/01/2014 11:31:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Nothing will ever be enough, not the great society money, not the stimulus, not the civil war dead, not Liberia, not affirmative action and set-asides... nothing.


32 posted on 07/01/2014 11:51:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Between the northern white dead from 1861-1865 and the entitlements paid out since the 60s there is no debt remaining.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 5:41:45 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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