NM ranching family tells feds: ‘Don’t fence us out’

New Mexico Watchdog ^ | July 3, 2014 | Rob Nikolewski

[Carry_Okie]

What constitutional power do they have ?

The ESA cites a host of treaties held at the UN for its statutory authority.

[Carry_Okie]

These people are so stupid.

No they're not. The budget to manage "recovery" is non-discretionary. Maintaining the mouse in its endangered status is job-security.

[Carry_Okie]

Are there actual criteria these people use to make these listings, or do they just pull the findings out of their asses at the behest of environ-MENTAL groups?

The law requires "the best available science." The bureaucrats then go about defining what that is in such a way that they can do as you suggested.

[Carry_Okie]

The whole point is to save the mice lest yet another species goes extinct. But fencing out the cattle is a dumb idea as to how to go about it.

That is the ostensible point. The real point is to get the American public off Federal lands to become a bureaucratic fiefdom under the control of those who own feedlots and their suppliers.

[Carry_Okie]

Knowing northern NM as I do, any fences put up by the Forest Service that serve to keep out humans won’t last long.

Reflectometry says those days are numbered.

[laplata]

What is Reflectometry?

[Carry_Okie]

What is Reflectometry?

It is how power companies pinpoint a line break from the office. They send a pulse down the line and if the return waves bouncing off the various resistances changes, especially if the signal reflects off an open circuit, they can use the timing of the reflection to tell them where it is.

[laplata]

Thanks for that info.

Reflectometry, in northern New Mexico would be looked upon as another stupid idea the Gringos came up with and ignore it or shoot out power lines.

[Carry_Okie]

Reflectometry, in northern New Mexico would be looked upon as another stupid idea the Gringos came up with and ignore it or shoot out power lines.

Been there, many times and I've heard the bravado you express before too, and in communities that have since been destroyed. Once the welfare dependents and bureaucrats outnumber the working residents, that picture starts to change. Give it ten years and you won't recognize the place unless you win the battle the right way.

[laplata]

Good points. El Rito, north of Abiquiu, for instance, is now basically a liberal/progressive enclave. The government is their god.

[SierraWasp]

Wull hay, George! We have a govermint run totally by whim and mob rule now!!! (just like Africa's post colonial MESS!!!)

Nothing but pussey thinking by left leaning "leaders!" People that think that critics of the founding and all other aspects of our christian/capitalistic nation are those who love America better than you and I!!!

[CPT Clay]

This endangered species crap has gone too far.