Skip to comments.STEYN: 'WE ARE ENTERING A POST-AMERICAN WORLD'
Posted on 07/04/2014 11:27:20 AM PDT by Hojczyk
HEWITT: Mike OHanlon said this is common sense. Victor Davis Hanson said this reflects the evaporation of American power in the world, and its not going to be just Japan. Its going to be everybody running to get their own guns. What do you think, Mark Steyn?
STEYN: Yes, I tend to agree with that, and Victor is a believer in the American umbrella, which is the situation thats prevailed since the Second World War, where some of the wealthiest countries in the world like Japan or like Germany were able to not, in a sense, put up the money for their own defense, because America, the American umbrella was over them. Obama, if you learn anything from the last six years, its that we are entering the post-American world. And whether youre an enemy of the United States or an ally of the United States, youve got to adjust to that. And I entirely understand why the Japanese would conclude, as the Polish foreign minister concluded a couple of weeks ago, that when it comes to it, the Americans are not going to be there for them. The Royal Australian Navy a couple of years ago held exercises with the Chinese, joint exercises. And I said to a naval officer down there that I know, I said well, didnt you guys all find that a bit odd? And he said well, this is the reality.
When America withdraws from the Pacific, Japan and Indonesia and Australia and China are all still going to be there, and were going to have to deal with the new reality as best we can. Japan is dealing with the post-American world. Poland is. Australia is. Singapore is. That is simply a reality of five years of Obama foreign policy.
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Liberals are very myopic (and stupidly simple-minded).
Locked and loaded. :)
They have it in their minds that we are imperialistic
If we were we would own a lot of countries, Iraq would be a colony from which we earned oil money, if it really were all about oil
They subscribe to psychopathic philosophers without thinking it through
America is not what the liberals think it is anymore that the Catholic Church is what about 60% of self identified Catholics think the church is
We aren’t “entering”, the door has already slammed shut behind us. The Party’s over, it’s time to call it a day...
Of course, as a nation we need to have an absolutely reliable military, second to none, and far more powerful than whatever nation is second (China in the near and foreseeable future?), weaponry that makes our enemies cringe in fear, a societal commitment to and honor towards those who serve and have served. That military needs the capability to deploy whenever and wherever genuinely needed in the interests of our own country and those of our best allies. Our politicians need to refrain from overusing that military.
OTOH, this nation is now flat on its back economically as a result of the inconclusive (because of feckless politicians of both parties) Iraq and Afghanistan wars, 5 1/2 years of Obozo's economic insanity designed to destroy this nation and its middle class and to infinitely expand the welfare dependency classes. We are far worse off now than when Ronaldus Maximus succeeded Jimmuh Peanut. We also don't have an obvious Reagan on the horizon.
Therefore, it is a good and necessary thing that Japan, Germany, Poland and others are going to have to step up to the plate and provide their own defense. We need to rebuild US defenses and offensive capability and are now unable to continue to protect mankind under our umbrella for te time being. We probably need to rebuild the core of commanders in each service because I would suspect that Obozo's criteria for forcing retirements and promoting replacements are truly alien to our own and to our nation's interests.
The day will come when we have an American world again but we will then have much stronger allies. In this way, Obozo's evil plans will actually backfire as leftist plans often do.
In the meantime, though we do not deserve it, may God bless the USA and protect it and us from its and our enemies!
Thanks for providing this wonderful forum in these terrible times!
We also appear to be entering a post-American America.
I’m sure to get some very negative comments about this but here goes...
America’s leaders made some very good as well as poor decisions following World War II. It was a good thing to help rebuild what was destroyed in Europe and Asia. We should have just settled for repayment on those efforts.
It was a bad thing to think we could impose ‘Pax Americana’ on the world. Not so much because it was a bad idea but because our form of government doesn’t have a good record or even means to have a consistent policy from Administration to Administration, be it foreign or domestic. We just change our political leadership way too often for that to occur.
That means in the long run we should have encouraged change we could live with and approve rather than try impose our own ways of doing things on nations around the globe. As we all know now it just backfired on us instead of creating friends and commonality among the nations of the world, all we have done is breed enemies who want nothing more than to make us ‘suffer’ for our ‘crimes’ as a nation.
Liberals have destroyed America. Thats the take away
The people at the top aren't idiots like the useful idiots at the bottom... Chaos and anarchy work to their benefit - they know that.
Yup. We’re going back to pre-WWII complacency. And I’m afraid the results will be the same. We’ll have to scramble (again) to mobilize for yet another inevitable world war within a decade or so. But I don’t know if we’ll be strong enough to pull it off this time. Crying shame that we’ve allowed Obama to destroy our nation so completely.
“Liberals think America is so terrible that we must withdraw from the world stage and let others make the decisions. They will be surprised by the anarchy that will follow...”
“The people at the top aren’t idiots like the useful idiots at the bottom... Chaos and anarchy work to their benefit - they know that.”
This sentence: “They will be surprised by the anarchy that will follow...”
I think should be: They will be overjoyed by the anarchy that will follow...”
Earth To Mark Steyn:Your Wake-Up Call Was Late!We Are THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think it turned out to be an Urban Legend, but there was a quote by some American generals that the only land we ever asked for in liberated countries was enough to bury our dead.
That would still make a good comeback or general statement by our side.
That gnarly capitalism, that blasted free choice. That’s how America “oppressed” the world. (Prior to the utter folly of Barack Obama.)
I can see the solution from my porch.
I don’t see anyone mark mentions wanting us to suffer
Just the libs who run our university/government/academic group The chamber of C is just along for the ride along with its group the GOPe
What we gave to Germany to rebuild was a drop in the bucket compared with the bill BO has run up
They don’t hate us, anyway
Radical islam? If wed just stop hating the idea of family, stop taxing the crap out of everyone to the point of driving everyone out of the house, to the workplace and stop worshipping birth control, we could ... And stop send our kids to the government schools run by psychopathic socialists, then we could defend our borders and live in peace
Check the cdc figures. We eliminate far more Americans per year than the 1.5 million by abortion, with birth control
Population problem? What about the tens of millions of Mexicans living here illegally? We allow the chamber of cheap labor to dictate which tens of millions more people are allowed here
No one is watching dinesh’s movie ??!!
It was Colin Powell
Of course it’s a good comeback. We don’t do comebacks but mows as good a time as any to quit whining, get smart on our founding documents know the bios of our leaders, and proud immigrants and quit being ashamed
We are intimidated by their confidence. We need to just get our own
I don’t think it is necessarily an entirely bad thing. America shouldn’t have to spend more than the rest of the world combined on defence. America’s allies should step up and match America’s per capita spending on defence, not only because it isn’t fair for the Americans to pick up all the slack, but because, as the Obama period has made very clear, the US is only ever an election away from becoming a very unreliable ally...
China for the first time to participate in the Khaan Quest 2014 multinational peacekeeping exercises in Mongolia
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The Marines were there and the Alaskan National Guard.
They remind me of O'Brien (party Dem) and Parsons (naive liberal) from the novel 1984.
We don’t need an “American world,” but our country and leadership should be much more American in culture and custom than it has become.
I just disagree with the explanation of why obama won—that Americans want a nanny state. The race was Rommeys to lose; remember his lackluster performance during the last debate, where he started praising Obama? If he would have gone after Obama the way Obama went after him, he would have won. He seemed paralyzed. Obama would lie, and he would leave the lie unchallenged.
Sorry, had to be done.
It's the attempts to impose this on other cultures, which cannot adjust their culture to our way of thinking.
It's notable that the mindset of nations we've attempted this with believes ,still, that whoever “wins” has his way.....compromising...give and take is not in their mindset at all. Rather compromise is seen as weakness by many where they understand strength is most significant over all.
Ukraine is a good example as their politicians have yet to understand what democracy is.....thus their Parliament ends up in fist fights all the time. I'll also say that is why it's impossible for Obama to compromise or get Congress to work together....he has the winner takes all mindset that he is King and Congress is suppose to support him.
LOL Love Kirk. Love my Marine who loves StarTrek, thanks.
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The death toll will be much higher this time.
I agree about not "imposing" our own ways, but I have to hesitate as well, because, of course, the rest of the nations around the globe tend to have "ways of doing things" which invariably mean little or no freedom for their people.
Consequently, America's prosperity, opportunity, and military power often engender misplaced jealousy, demonization, and even hysterical fear in other nations and their peoples.
Regardless, it's obvious to me that when Freedom doesn't flourish around the world, problems will arise which eventually impact America.
It seems like we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, but it's certainly true that the world's peoples' profound need for freedom, opportunity, and security cannot be met simply by depending on the American "umbrella".
The people of the world are going to have to step up, each in their respective countries, see to their OWN security, and eventually seize the Freedom and Opportunity which Americans take for granted as their birthright.
Change we can live with? We still need that here in America, and God knows the rest of the world has a lot of catching up to do. America is an imperfect beacon of light on a distant hill, but it still outshines all others.
Hansen, instead of cheerleading the U.S. Iraqi adventure should have questioned it with all his heart and soul. Controlling land on the other side of the world was beyond our strategic reach and it has set the stage for evertying that has happened since.
Rule of law is coming down now, here, under Obama, because of what George Bush did then, there, in that distant place.
If you read Dinesh D'Souza, you discover that the great gift the British Empire extended was rule of law under British Common Law. We have now abandoned rule of law here, and not just from the left. Common law took a millenia to evolve, from Viking law, Anglo Saxon law and Norman feudal law. It is the received wisdom of the ages that gave us the industrial revolution and all the gifts since. And if you read Scalia, you will discover that as great a jurist as he is, he is no friend of the common law either, bowing to the whims of the state over the centuries of accrued human wisdom.
What? Japan, Canada, Europe including now Eastern Europe, Australia, NZ, much of SE Asia, and even Brazil, Chile and Argentina. I am no fan of Putin, but even Putin's Russia is no soviet union if we would just stop standing with our noses hanging over the Russian boarder. The democtratic nations have total control of the oceans and trade routes around the world. The crisis was all created by Bush and Cheney with their unrealistic goals on the one hand, and Obama with his all too realistic if un-American and un-democratic goals on the other.