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Pentagon Fast-Tracking 'Iron Man' Body Armor
News Max ^ | July 6 2014 | Elliot Jager

Posted on 07/06/2014 8:05:55 AM PDT by PoloSec

The Pentagon is turning to Hollywood developers to come up with body armor prototypes to protect elite U.S. forces, The Wall Street Journal reported. The U.S. Special Operations Command is bypassing the standard contracting system to accelerate the proposal, testing, and evaluation process.

Proposals are coming from the make-believe world that created special effects for such movies as Captain America and Iron Man, as well as experts on genuine medieval body armor. The goal is to come up — within four years — with suits that would protect special operations forces against bullets, bombs and bayonets.

-SNIP-

In May, some of those involved in the effort came together in Vermont for a day to test a prototype they've come up with so far. The partial exoskeleton proved to be far too heavy and unwieldy.

Designers say that the ultimate product is probably not going to look much like the Hollywood versions. Brian Dowling, a former special forces soldier, who is managing the effort for Revision Military in Vermont said: "Will you ever have an Iron Man? I don't know. But you'll have some greatly improved technology along the way."

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1 posted on 07/06/2014 8:05:55 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

“That would require a yet-to-be-invented power source.”

In other words dumping a crap ton of money into yet another vaporware project.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 8:10:18 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: PoloSec
I heard on the radio a few days ago that they're trying to scale up spider silk to make body armor out of.

Apparently the stuff is amazingly strong, light, and flexible, much better than anything we've got now.

If I heard it right (I was only half listening), they're trying to genetically engineering goats to make it. (Stay out of the pasture.)

3 posted on 07/06/2014 8:14:37 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: PoloSec

Troy Hurtubise should submit something that’s based on his anti-bear armor research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CzYw5-qdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPS2l5fQ55A


4 posted on 07/06/2014 8:14:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PoloSec

Expect the finished product to show up first on the no-warrant jack boots.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 8:19:00 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

lmao exactly. Local revenue enforcers can’t wait to get their hands on this.


6 posted on 07/06/2014 8:20:59 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Domandred

“TONY STARK BUILT THIS FROM A BOX OF SCRAPS! IN A CAVE!!”


7 posted on 07/06/2014 8:22:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Domandred

About 5 minutes after we figured out flight we wanted exoskeletons. Nothing really new about the project. And some day it will work.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 8:25:17 AM PDT by discostu (Ladies and gentlemen watch Ruth!)
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To: PoloSec
The Pentagon is turning to Hollywood developers to come up with body armor prototypes to protect elite U.S. forces, The Wall Street Journal reported. The U.S. Special Operations Command is bypassing the standard contracting system to accelerate the proposal, testing, and evaluation process.

Gorgeous. Life imitates South Park once again. Michael Bay will want the suit to be extra explodey.

9 posted on 07/06/2014 8:39:33 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: PoloSec

This is just an excuse to pump money into Hollywood.

Their materials experts have no advantage on the defense industry.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 8:44:51 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: PoloSec

Gosh, maybe Gene Roddenberry could have showed them how a warp drive could work.


11 posted on 07/06/2014 8:45:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: MUDDOG

“If I heard it right (I was only half listening), they’re trying to genetically engineering goats to make it. (Stay out of the pasture.) “

If this doesn’t have the makings of a 1950’s horror movie, I don’t know what does. Just stir in boys with hotrods and incredibly stacked but dumb chicks and add popcorn.


12 posted on 07/06/2014 8:47:27 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: cuban leaf
But even then, we don't have dilithium crystals.

It may be like an atom bomb. Lots of people know how to build one; the problem is getting the enriched uranium and plutonium.

13 posted on 07/06/2014 8:49:44 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Gen.Blather

Perfect!


14 posted on 07/06/2014 8:50:19 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Gen.Blather

“OH, I broke my heel. Carry me!”


15 posted on 07/06/2014 8:54:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: PoloSec
Heck with the suit. I want a Tumbler.



16 posted on 07/06/2014 8:54:39 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: PoloSec

Hollywood body armor?
Pink and vegan first and foremost.


17 posted on 07/06/2014 8:54:51 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: MUDDOG

” they’re trying to genetically engineering goats to make it.”

Actually, the goat was to produce a extra protein in the milk that could be used. Project went bankrupt.


18 posted on 07/06/2014 8:56:27 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: PoloSec

They are hurrying really, really fast because they know we’ve got the guns.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 8:56:51 AM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: MUDDOG

Yeah. That’s my point. Hollywood CAN come up with great ideas, but their implementation could be either centuries off or totally impractical.

Still, time travel movies and episodes are my favorite.

I read a science fiction book called Golden Globe where genetically engineered giant spiders spun the superstructure of space stations in place. That’s doable, I believe.


20 posted on 07/06/2014 8:57:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: TexasGator
Project went bankrupt.

Back to the drawing board.

21 posted on 07/06/2014 8:58:03 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Gen.Blather

“Spiber” silk is tougher than Kevlar

http://www.gizmag.com/spiber-synthetic-silk/28267/


22 posted on 07/06/2014 8:58:18 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: cuban leaf
I like those stories too.

Given how they make nylon (I saw them pulling strands out of solutions at the '64 World's Fair), I figured they could chemically analyze spider silk and come up with some chemical means for making it without resorting to spider-goats, but apparently not.

23 posted on 07/06/2014 9:03:45 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

This one is from a goat.

BioSteel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioSteel


24 posted on 07/06/2014 9:03:49 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: MUDDOG
Next thing you'll know, they'll be engineering giant spiders for production of these things. One will escape and attack a small town. Then, we'll be hearing about the phone call from Hugo, the high school janitor to the science teacher:

"Mister OhMyGod, Crunch Crunch? Spit out whatever you're chewing and start over."
25 posted on 07/06/2014 9:16:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“TONY STARK BUILT THIS FROM A BOX OF SCRAPS! IN A CAVE!!”

I have to admit, I was impressed. I guess the Army was, too. ;-)

26 posted on 07/06/2014 9:19:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: PoloSec

We don’t need body armor, we need swords and we need to fight bloody. How else will violence be committed only by the few and with darn good reason?


27 posted on 07/06/2014 9:19:36 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: MUDDOG

>I heard on the radio a few days ago that they’re trying to scale up spider silk to make body armor out of.

You stay up too late at night, just like me ;-)


28 posted on 07/06/2014 9:29:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

You’re right. I get a lot of useless information that way!


29 posted on 07/06/2014 9:51:41 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: RandallFlagg

He could also be calling up to report the Blob.


30 posted on 07/06/2014 9:52:31 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: PoloSec
‘Iron Man’ body armor, brought to you by the creators of the F-35’Fiasco’, the Beretta M9, and the LCS’Queen of the Seas’.
This will not end well and cost a hell of a lot of money.
TWB
31 posted on 07/06/2014 9:58:14 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (a)
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To: cuban leaf

He did. The technology just isn’t there yet.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 10:10:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: PoloSec

They would be better off pursing the Tin Man concept.

This stands for Ballistic Electro-Reactive Process and was developed by Doctor Jon Masters, another recurring character in the McLanahan series of books. This technology essentially harnesses electricity to instantly harden whatever surface it is applied to, in this case-the fabric of a combat suit. This allows it to stop bullets or other attacks as if the suit were made of steel. The only requirement is that the item being stopped must be moving at a high rate of speed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tin_Man_(novel)


33 posted on 07/06/2014 10:13:33 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MUDDOG

True.
Hugo the Janitor - “This thing’s just ate three school buses! Now it’s heading for the congressional building!”

Police - “So?”


34 posted on 07/06/2014 10:21:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: PoloSec

There are carbon fiber reinforced aluminum plates that for the first time passed the Army’s final unpassable test.

For fun, contractors have made standard army helmets and subjected them to an M4 round at point blank range to see if it could withstand the round.

Without exception, every test is a failure, and generally there’s a big hole, and sometimes an exit hole, except the exit hole thing can be an embarrassment to the vendor.

Recently, this test was performed on a carbon fiber reinforced aluminum army helmet. The round failed to penetrate. the dent was less than 3/8 of an inch. Obviously, the wearer of the helmet would have been perhaps fatally concussed, but that isn’t the point of the test.

The test was designed to be a laugher, and it has a lore to it. This test has been passed.

Armor is getting lighter and stronger. In fact the post-test analysis of the impact point revealed that the material had become STRONGER with work. A second impact at the same point would not have penetrated either, and would have resulted in stronger material at that point.

Converting this to body armor was relatively easy, and it is available as armor. They are building it now for tanks and APC’s.

The problem with using carbon fiber as an exoskeleton is that CFR material tends to be great in one axis, and shatters in another. So, you can make it load bearing and light, but you can shatter it with a bullet from the side.

Rather than doing this, I have to believe what’s coming down the pike is a flying drone with the ability to cover ground using either legs or wheels like a spider. You can drop it through a ceiling, and it will get its bearings and help shooters evaluate what to shoot.

They’ll make them in different sizes.


35 posted on 07/06/2014 10:28:23 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: PoloSec

How soon before they start handing it out to the police along with the Humvees, tanks, missile launchers, F-35’s and tactical nukes the police need to projectile and service us?


36 posted on 07/06/2014 11:07:03 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: PoloSec

Hmm, contracting out improvements of armor for our troops to lib Hollyweirdos doesn’t seem well thought out.


37 posted on 07/06/2014 11:36:27 AM PDT by bgill
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