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The Messy World of Smart Guns
New York Times ^ | July 7, 2014 | Joe Nocera

Posted on 07/08/2014 7:14:53 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

The Andy Raymond rant is a thing to behold.

Raymond, the co-owner of Engage Armament in Montgomery County, Md., is one of the two gun dealers who, a few months ago, tried to sell the Armatix iP1 — a.k.a., the first commercially available “smart gun” — to his customers. He thought that not only did he have every right to sell a smart gun, but that he was doing the gun world a favor by offering a gun that had the potential to expand the universe of gun owners.

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I last looked into smart gun technology about a year and a half ago, and what I saw then was a lot of ferment — and genuine excitement about the potential of smart-gun technologies. I found people who had been working on smart guns for years, like Don Sebastian of the New Jersey Institute of Technology, and newcomers to the field like Ron Conway, the Silicon Valley investor who was galvanized by the massacre in Newtown, Conn., and began backing a smart-gun effort. It was also the first time I heard about a New Jersey law that said that if smart guns became commercially available anywhere in the country, New Jersey gun dealers would be required, within three years, to sell only guns that had smart-gun technology.

The idea, said Loretta Weinberg, the New Jersey Senate majority leader who sponsored the legislation 12 years ago, was partly to spur gun innovation. Instead, it held back innovation, as traditional gun manufacturers saw no incentive in investing in smart-gun technology. It was also vehemently opposed by the National Rifle Association, which viewed it, not incorrectly, as a gun control effort.

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Senator Weinberg acknowledged that her bill may have become an impediment rather than a spur to gun safety.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist
As for Weinberg, she told me that she had approached the N.R.A. as recently as two weeks ago and said she would try to get her law repealed if the N.R.A. would promise not to block smart-gun technology from reaching the marketplace. “I said we might have some common ground here.” The N.R.A. did not reply.

Looks like it backfired on you, stupid gun grabber.

1 posted on 07/08/2014 7:14:53 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

If someone would invent SMART BULLETS, that would be doing something.


2 posted on 07/08/2014 7:19:56 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Sandia’s self-guided bullet prototype can hit target a mile
https://share.sandia.gov/news/resources/news_releases/bullet/#.U7v_GfldV8E

The four-inch-long bullet has actuators that steer tiny fins that guide it to its target.

The four-inch-long bullet has actuators that steer tiny fins that guide it to its target.

3 posted on 07/08/2014 7:25:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Second Amendment First
If someone *wants* to pay extra money for a battery powered feature that may malfunction in a critical moment, then good for them.
Any assailant I can possibly expect won't have it on his gun so why should I?

4 posted on 07/08/2014 7:26:22 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

If it’s a good idea make the feds and every police department inn the country use it first. Otherwise its the most egregious Orwellian tyranny yet.


5 posted on 07/08/2014 7:42:25 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Second Amendment First

Only a complete moron would use a gun that will only fire if a battery operated contraption lets him. If your battery dies (that would never happen) or the electronics fails (again, that would never happen), or there a malfunction (not going to happen) or the SHTF (EMP fries all electronics) then you are out-o-luck.


6 posted on 07/08/2014 7:44:58 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I heard the software is windows 7. No worries unless your cpu usuage inexplicably spikes when it tries to read your prints...


7 posted on 07/08/2014 7:54:58 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: BitWielder1

or an easily jammed signal that reders the user unarmed.


8 posted on 07/08/2014 7:55:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Liberal Speak - Smart Bullet
already exists, we know them as snap caps and dummy rounds


9 posted on 07/08/2014 7:55:04 AM PDT by Plain Old American (Remember who said what; Remind those who don't Remember; Vote and take a friend to the polls)
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To: BuffaloJack

The people pushing this idea can’t make the connection with a dead cell phone battery (which we’ve all experienced) and a dead “smart gun” battery. That’s the problem with liberals: they spout ideas without ever really thinking any of it through.


10 posted on 07/08/2014 7:55:36 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: BuffaloJack

Whatever happened to the electronic firing mechanism that some rifles had (Remington I think)? It wasn’t “smart” technology, just an electronic linkage between trigger and firing pin.


11 posted on 07/08/2014 7:56:12 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Second Amendment First

Give the smart guns to the cops first. bet they will reject them. Would YOU bet YOUR life on a dead battery when the chips are down?


12 posted on 07/08/2014 8:15:54 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Second Amendment First

In time, smart gun technology will be viable. That does NOT make it a wise thing to do. It is the worst sort of camel’s nose under the tent of freedom. The means of defending life and liberty must never be part of the ‘internet of things.’
Any company making or selling such guns ought to be boycotted unto economic death. They are a threat to life and liberty.


13 posted on 07/08/2014 8:17:42 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: BitWielder1

I’m not sure how effective using biometrics to fire a weapon would be, but I’m not entirely against such measures for gun storage. I’m thinking, if you have a household with children and their friends in it, it might be advantageous to have a safe that only mommy or daddy’s thumb/eye could open.


14 posted on 07/08/2014 8:20:26 AM PDT by H8Libs
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To: Second Amendment First

Donning my conspiracy tin-foil hat:

These smart guns require an energy source. So in the event of an extended power outage, people would eventually lose the ability to defend themselves. Kind of like disarming them?

No need for confiscation just pull the plug.

A tyrant’s dream.


15 posted on 07/08/2014 8:22:18 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Second Amendment First

All of the ‘control’ efforts be they Gun control, High capacity drink Control, Fat control, health control, etc. All of them have a common theme. External to the human body, mind and soul control.

They ALL ignore that most ancient and most successful of all controls... Self-control. In today’s age we are exhorted, taught and encouraged to blame someone... anyone for our personal failings. But never ourselves and never to accept personal responsibility for our actions.


16 posted on 07/08/2014 8:38:31 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: H8Libs

A friend of mine has an electronic push button gun safe.

Electric surge scrambled the electronics and he couldn’t open the safe.

Had to get a technician to come out to reprogram and open the safe.

Now he has to keep it turned off and the backup batteries out so it doesn’t get screwed up again if there is another power surge.

You go right ahead and depend on electronics if you want to but if they fail and you need to get into your safe your need will have to wait until the technician gets there.


17 posted on 07/08/2014 8:48:51 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Tallguy
"That’s the problem with liberals: they spout ideas without ever really thinking any of it through."

It's worse than that. They spout ideas that make them look "caring" so they can control the rest of the population.

18 posted on 07/08/2014 9:25:00 AM PDT by Pecos (Kakocracy - killing the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: IMR 4350

I’m an electronics engineer who has been designing wireless equipment and radar since the 80’s, and there is absolutely NO WAY I want anything battery-powered between my trigger and the powder in my cartridge. Not nearly reliable enough, and .gov WILL attempt to control it.


19 posted on 07/08/2014 10:49:51 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: joshua c

The Soviet Union used this same practice to control their populace. Every major city had heating plants, which piped hot water to the different apartment buildings, and the hot water was used in the circulatory heating systems. Shut off the hot water, and people got real cold, real fast.


20 posted on 07/08/2014 12:32:56 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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