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Texas Gov. Rick Perry's letter to President Obama on border security
Washington Post ^ | July 9, 2014 | Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)

Posted on 07/09/2014 1:28:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Letter dated May 4, 2012, details problems in Texas related to an influx of unaccompanied children crossing the state's border with Mexico.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegalaliens; invasion; perry
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To: montag813

What is Gov.Perry’s letter is ‘ phony’?


21 posted on 07/09/2014 2:19:09 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

State Active Duty (SAD)
The Governor can activate National Guard personnel to “State Active Duty” in response to natural or man made
disasters or Homeland Defense missions. SAD is based on State statue and policy as well as State funds.

Soldiers and Airmen remain under the command and control of the Governor. A key aspect of this duty status is that the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply, giving National Guardsmen the ability to act in a law enforcement capacity within their home state or adjacent state if granted by that state’s Governor.

I would think Homeland Defense covers his ability and also for law enforcement within their home state.

Title 32 Full Time National Guard Duty can be called upon by the Governor with the approval of the POTUS.


22 posted on 07/09/2014 2:39:21 PM PDT by maddog55 (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.)
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To: maddog55

Yes a governor can protect his state as needed
The border in question is a national border
The illegals sneaking in are under federal authority.
A state’s authority does not trump federal authority especially in this instance.


23 posted on 07/09/2014 2:54:02 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: itsahoot
Actually the Marshall's did not arrest Wallace and did not attempt to. When Federal troops later arrived at that school house door Wallace (cowardly) stepped aside and offered no resistance.

It would be worth it to force Obama to use US soldiers, soldiers who sworn an oath to protect the Constitution and the US, to protect illegal aliens as they illegally cross our border from Americans who only want to law obeyed.

Perry should deport the illegals and force the issue.

24 posted on 07/09/2014 2:56:13 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RWGinger
Gov Perry Nor ANY governor can deport or force people out of a state into another country.

So what? Do it anyway. Obama is breaking the law by not deporting this people and is going to ruin the country.

"[a] strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means." - President Thomas Jefferson

25 posted on 07/09/2014 2:59:08 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RWGinger
A State can engage in war during invasion. This is most certainly a invasion.

Secondly, the Feds do not have the power to take over a local school. This is a State vs. Fed issue and Perry is beyond weak, but typical of Texas governors.

They can go hang out on Federal 'property'.

26 posted on 07/09/2014 3:18:10 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

I would love it if Perry did it but reality is he can’t and you know that.
read your own sig line


27 posted on 07/09/2014 3:20:29 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Actually the Marshall's did not arrest Wallace and did not attempt to.

Actually they told him they would arrest him if he didn't step aside, and the coward did. I watched it live on my 17 inch black and white TV.

The Governors will do nothing to reclaim their 19th amendment power, so I have no respect for any of the cowardly republicans.

Some here should remember how we were told by Perry, we had no heart if we didn't want to pay for illegals education.

28 posted on 07/09/2014 3:50:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: RWGinger
Oklahoma deported people to another country?

Not another country, different state, they left on their own because of new laws they passed.

A fence is not necessary just make it hard to make a living if you are illegal.

29 posted on 07/09/2014 3:57:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: Theoria

Can a state declare war?

Look I live here and I see the disaster that pile of crap odumbo is creating but I also see reality

Those who shout for the Texas Guard to close the border.
HOW?
would you have the soldiers fire on the people crossing over?
Stop them by shoving them back? Shove the kids back across the border?
REALLY?
Please Think
Until we get someone in the WH who cares we are screwed


30 posted on 07/09/2014 3:59:11 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
Yes, only Congress and a State can opt into War.

As for the details of what Perry can do.

Use the Nat Guard to enforce the border. Yeah, you send the kids back. There are millions of kids just like this all over the world, these kids are no different.

Do what .gov is doing and transport the illegals to DC, and drop them off. That will get some attention.

Drop any State help to the Feds in the form of shelters, schools, and other resources until more enforcement is brought forth.

31 posted on 07/09/2014 4:11:56 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: RWGinger

Are you a moron or GOPe operative?

Perry can deport these illegals and if Obama or anyone else doesn’t like it, tough crap, take it to court.


32 posted on 07/09/2014 4:17:31 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: rfreedom4u

I was reading that the Governor does have the right to order the National Guard to protect the Borders. However, the President can then “Federalize” those troops and order them back off the border. Once the troops are Federalized, they have to obey the President’s orders.

I can see Obama trumping any Governor’s call up of National Guard to the border.


33 posted on 07/09/2014 5:14:16 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Engedi

All the more reason for governors who actually care about Americans to call out the Guard!

Make the President reveal his hate-America actions again with the lights on.


34 posted on 07/09/2014 5:17:35 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cubs Fan

Really?
cite the authority under which a state, ANY state can deport an person to another country.
Please cite authority?
Those of us who live here and see the consequences of that vile POS odumbo hate IT
But for you to keep spewing stupid chit doesn’t help

SHOW ME ANY AUTHORITY THAT ANY STATE ALONE CAN KICK ANYONE OUT WHO IS UNDER FEDERAL AUTHORITY.
SHOW IT
OR STFU


35 posted on 07/09/2014 5:40:14 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Can you show me where the federal government has the authority to not enforce federal laws?

You’re a total GOPe idiot aren’t you? Perry can throw these people out if he wants, only a court can stop him.

BTW did I tell you that you are a certified GOPe idiot I really hope so, because you most definitely are.


36 posted on 07/09/2014 6:01:01 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: itsahoot

Thank you.


37 posted on 07/09/2014 7:18:49 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Cubs Fan

Nice display of civility. You know you are wrong on what a state governor can do so you resort to insults.

Did it make you feel better?

It doesn’t change what a governor of any state has the authority to do. The name of the governor does not matter. The same thing could be said about Brewer, Martinez or Brown.


38 posted on 07/10/2014 7:42:13 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
Nice display of civility.

You were the first to hurl insults, and now you have the nerve to cry about it. Wow what a sad little GOPe hypocrite you are.

It doesn’t change what a governor of any state has the authority to do.

It doesn't change the fact that the Federal government has the duty to enforce immigration laws, and if they won't do it then that needs to fall elsewhere.

Like I said. Perry or any other governer can put them on a plane out until a court says he can't.

You see it's because of GOPe idiots like you that Obama and co are winning, you defend them for doing whatever they want even if its illegal and or unconstitutional and then you say our side cannot fight back.

39 posted on 07/10/2014 8:51:03 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: Cubs Fan

How would a Governor get the illegals from federal control?

Fire on the feds?


40 posted on 07/10/2014 9:17:06 AM PDT by RWGinger
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