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Gun violence is a crisis in public health
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 12 july 2014 | Eugene Kane

Posted on 07/12/2014 4:17:41 AM PDT by rellimpank

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To: Jim Noble
How about mandatory 10 years for possession by a prohibited person?

Except the list pr prohibitive factors seems to be growing as well.

61 posted on 07/12/2014 7:24:17 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: rellimpank

If you are Eugene Kane, your rigid ideology won’t allow you to blame the welfare state, fatherless families or personal responsibility. So who to you blame? - an inanimate object - the gun.


62 posted on 07/12/2014 7:29:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: marktwain
The word is getting out. Homicide is cultural.

Only among those with powers of deductive reasoning and a desire for truth over ideology. None of which applies to the left.

I gave that article to my New Deal era, anti gun, liberal uncle. He read it and wrote back that yes, I had indeed made my point. 95% of us [crazy]redneck gun owners were not the gun violence problem.

Fast forward 3 months later. He is again forwarding me stuff just like this pantload of socialist propaganda. He has completely reverted.

You can't change these people. That's because (IMO) deep down the reason they are against gun ownership has nothing to do with gun crime. It is because they know that we know that the Constitutionally enumerated right to own guns has nothing to do with self defense against crime or for hunting. They can't bear the fact that we Constitutionalists know firearms are our defense against tyranny. And they can't admit, even to themselves, that they are in favor of tyranny. That they believe in statism and despotic government. The ability of the hoi polloi to resist this infuriates and terrifies them.

hoi polloi
noun
derogatory

the masses; the common people.
"avoid mixing with the hoi polloi"
synonyms: masses, common people, populace, public, multitude, rank and file, lower order(s), plebeians, proletariat;

63 posted on 07/12/2014 7:35:57 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Ouderkirk
The problem is: when you yourself are engaged in illegal activity, and someone tresspasses on your action, you cannot seek legal remedies for redress.

In a small measure that's what we have the Jerry Springer show for.

64 posted on 07/12/2014 7:36:00 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: rellimpank

Umm, don’t about 40,000 people a year die in cars? But they were probably drunk, and shooting at cans out the window of the car.


65 posted on 07/12/2014 7:46:49 AM PDT by stillfree? (Rome is Burning)
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To: Last Dakotan

I’ll say this again and over again until the real problem is addressed. This is the direct result of the “Great Society” and the incubators of parasites and predators in the cities created by Democrat idiocy. When you create a society based on fatherless families, paid for pregnancies and government sponsored sloth you get just what is being seen in most cities today. Until we understand the underlying problem there will be no solution.


66 posted on 07/12/2014 7:48:42 AM PDT by JayAr36 (OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN THIS A FREE COUNTRY)
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To: driftdiver

“So 10 years for a child who goes hunting?”

Heck no. The only thing a kid who goes hunting should get is discounts on future purchases.


67 posted on 07/12/2014 8:06:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Last Dakotan

“If you are Eugene Kane, your rigid ideology won’t allow you to blame the welfare state, fatherless families or personal responsibility. So who to you blame? - an inanimate object - the gun.”

Exactly. To current “progressives” there can be no individual responsibility. The whole program has been to deny individual responsibility.


68 posted on 07/12/2014 8:11:00 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: rellimpank

The solution to this is in the Guiliani technique, modified to increase gun liberty.

1) Pick a single block in the center of the most troubled area, and flood it with police. Their job is to police up even minor infractions, note infrastructure problems that have a new priority for repair. They figure that the majority of the criminals will bug out, planning to come back later.

2) A core group of the police will remain behind when the main body moves on. So the core group gets to know everyone on that block with a legitimate reason for being there. And once the main body leaves, they will be able to focus on strangers.

And this is the time I would arm everyone on that block who is of good character, eligible, and willing. Even give them some training.

3) Prepare the block for economic development and bring in good businesses.

The idea is to clean the block, then set it up to be much harder to infect by criminals. Then move to the next block, leaving the core group of police behind to maintain the gains.


69 posted on 07/12/2014 8:17:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: elcid1970
Real question: how does a FReeper go to DU or other leftie or muzzie sites without getting a virus cookie in one’s computer?

On Firefox, I just open a "private browsing" window to access most sites. Web sites do not get access to prior-existing cookies, and any cookies they set go away when the window is closed.

70 posted on 07/12/2014 8:21:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: rellimpank

The crisis is in mental health, and it’s being totally ignored to politicize it into a gun issue.


71 posted on 07/12/2014 8:22:26 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: rellimpank

I remember back in the ‘70s, some anti-gun people were showing slides of John Snow’s breakthrough study of London’s 1854 cholera epidemic where he discovered a contaminated water pump was “the focus of infection”. These “doctors” were equating firearms to that pump.

The room was full of lawyers who were scribbling notes and nodding sagely - and these were supposed to be educated people.

In olden times, doctors advised that the same poultice put on a stabbing victim’s cut be applied to the weapon that caused the wound as it would speed up the healing process. It appears that in some areas, we haven’t come very far, for the antis are still taking this crack-brained approach.


72 posted on 07/12/2014 9:06:27 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: rellimpank

The headline isn’t quite accurate. It should read “Chicago is a public health crisis.”


73 posted on 07/12/2014 9:16:27 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: MrB

>>So, if you want to do something about the violence, do something about the cause.<<

Your suggestions are .................. and .................


74 posted on 07/12/2014 12:12:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Be careful! You are bringing out the truth and we both know the truth can be painful.


75 posted on 07/12/2014 12:38:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Insensitive and racist, I know, I know.
In other words, “shut up, they explained”.


76 posted on 07/12/2014 1:51:25 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SECURE AMERICA; All

In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, author W. Eugene Hollon, provides us with these astonishing facts:
•In Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell, for the years from 1870 to 1885, there were only 45 total homicides. This equates to a rate of approximately 1 murder per 100,000 residents per year.
•In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, not a single person was killed in 1869 or 1870.

Zooming forward over a century to 2007, a quick look at Uniform Crime Report statistics shows us the following regarding the aforementioned gun control “paradise” cities of the east:

•DC – 183 Murders (31 per 100,000 residents)

Baltimore – 281 Murders (45 per 100,000 residents)

Newark – 104 Murders (37 per 100,000 residents)

It doesn’t take an advanced degree in statistics to see that a return to “wild west” levels of violent crime would be a huge improvement for the residents of these cities.

The truth of the matter is that the “wild west” wasn’t wild at all … not compared to a Saturday night in Newark.

http://www.examiner.com/article/dispelling-the-myth-of-the-wild-west


77 posted on 07/12/2014 4:49:21 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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