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The 4 NYC teachers banned from classrooms who rake in millions
NY Post ^ | 07/13/2007 | Susan Edelman

Posted on 07/13/2014 4:04:51 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Three of the city’s longest-running “rubber room” teachers have raked in more than $1 million each for a decade of not working in classrooms, and a fourth is paid a top salary — $100,049 a year — not to teach. The Foul Four — who beat sexual-misconduct charges — can’t be fired by the Department of Education because they are entitled to job protections under state tenure laws, which require “due process.” Educators are entitled to a trial with an independent hearing officer who decides whether any misconduct warrants termination.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; publicschools

1 posted on 07/13/2014 4:04:51 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

How does one get such a job?


2 posted on 07/13/2014 4:05:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think you have to be a member of the union and molest a child.


3 posted on 07/13/2014 4:09:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: Kid Shelleen

Unions aren’t there working for the taxpayers. A situation that’s so predictable.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 4:13:32 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Kid Shelleen

unbelievable ==


5 posted on 07/13/2014 4:14:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Easy...and I say this as a recovering educator. Get yourself a degree in education. Sign on with a big-city district with an all-powerful union. Kiss the backside of your principal and your local union shop steward on a daily basis. Work just enough to get tenure, then kick back and ride the gravy train for the next 25 years or so.

And if you decide to break the law, make sure the union has your back and exercise every hearing and appeal that you’re entitled to under existing regulations. If you’re sent to a “rubber room,” no sweat. Great chance to work on a graduate degree, or maybe launch an outside business. Previous reporting by the New York Post indicates that several rubber room teachers got other jobs and some sold real estate on the side.

I’m told the appeals process in NYC takes at least 10 years, so if the aspiring teacher/felon times it right, you can retire (with full pension) before your case is decided. I’ve also heard that granting retirement to educators in the rubber room is virtually automatic, since it “gets rid of a problem.”

Only in America and only in our education system.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 4:16:53 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: ExNewsExSpook

What made you quit your career in education?


7 posted on 07/13/2014 4:22:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Kid Shelleen
In Glenn Beck's Arguing with Idiots, there is a flowchart of what must be done to fire a NYC teacher. It's enough to make your head spin...
8 posted on 07/13/2014 4:26:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Every week I read yet another story that makes me soooo damn glad I moved out of that fetid, rotten, stinking, vomit inducing liberal cesspool posing as a city. I think it was last week I read a story of a pederast posing as a teacher who sent a boy 800 text messages, brought him out on “dates”, bought games and toys for him, told him how much he loved him etc etc ...and he was NOT FIRED as well, merely suspended. That city is on a fast track to becoming Detroit 2, I don’t know how Wall street is going to deal with that. I mean, either they move the whole operation or they end up getting taxed into oblivion. They are going to have to move, I don’t care how much money you make, getting taxed 80% before getting slammed with 90000 other taxes, only an idiot would deal with that kind of situation. There’s no need for Wall street down there anymore anyway, I mean what is the point of having that location? NYC is dead, it’s like doing business in a landfill.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 4:34:47 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Teachers = more sexual misconduct than liberals could possibly dream up for the Catholic Church.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 4:37:42 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Kid Shelleen

This is the barometer of how doomed America is.

The Criminals are in charge
and the (alleged) “Press” are their PR-reps.


11 posted on 07/13/2014 4:38:15 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT US Congress remains COMPLICIT)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel. (LOL)


12 posted on 07/13/2014 4:39:16 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: livius

yep/


13 posted on 07/13/2014 4:41:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It appears that the four predators are White, I therefore assume that all the victims are also White because there is no discussion of racial harassment and financial remuneration to the victims; which they certainly would be entitled to.
You ever notice that victims of sexual harassment, particularly those who are union members, never ask the union to disciple the alleged perpetrators?
I guess some union members are more empowered than others.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 4:42:47 PM PDT by BilLies ( it isn't the color of the skin, but culture that is embraced that degrades.)
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To: livius

There was a story just last week. Male teacher and a 14 year old boy. Somehow the teacher got off, even though the facts were not really in dispute.


15 posted on 07/13/2014 4:43:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Kid Shelleen; All
It's a 'rat resume enhancement, the "party" encourages the behavior.

16 posted on 07/13/2014 4:53:28 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Funny thing is if the libtard unions would fix this and allow these turds to be flushed there would be a lot more people sympathetic with them.


17 posted on 07/13/2014 4:59:22 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I think the Rot occurred many years ago..not just the last decade,
The DNC Press has "spiked" so many cases of official malfeasance

18 posted on 07/13/2014 5:02:50 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
Sorry to rain on your dispersal of seriously incorrect misinformation, but...

You cannot "kick back and ride the gravy train" NOW with (a) Commie Core lessons to be written and graded, (b) the huge amount of test prep currently required, (c) the 22 elements of the Danielson framework to be followed and (d) students who openly tell you, "I'm gonna get you fired, bitch," knowing what buzzwords to use in their fabrication to do exactly that. And if that's how YOU undertook your job as a teacher--kicking back and riding the gravy train--I'm glad you're out.

The "all-powerful union" you mention gave its power away with both hands. They are now a laughable paper tiger deliriously happy to take $1300 from your paychecks/year to do basically nothing on your behalf, but stab you in the back in collusion with the Bored of Ed.

There are basically no more rubber rooms, and haven't been for a couple of years, so your information is out of date. And, contrary to the anti-teacher propaganda spread by tabloids like the New York Post, rubber rooms were overwhelmingly populated by what amounted to political prisoners--teachers who had run afoul of an administrator for some reason, usually having nothing to do with their teaching. So the administrator would start to generate documentation to "prove" something bad about the teacher. This included walking into classrooms and openly soliciting the students to write statements against their teacher!

The new horrific contract streamlines the termination of veteran teachers placed in the Absentee Teacher Reserve because their schools were closed. They are treated differently and in a far inferior manner to teachers posted in regular positions in still unclosed schools in the new contract, even though they are paying equal dues. If accused by 2 different principals of as-yet totally unspecified accusations, teachers in the A.T.R. pool get a one-day hearing to be terminated, not "10 years". And this is the thanks they get for decades of devoted teaching to the students of NYC.

If you are relying on the New York Post for your information, just remember that it is owned by the scurrilous Rupert Murdoch, a crony of former mayor and teacher hater Bloomberg. You are just as likely to see page after page of scantily clad women and sexually explicit photos in its issues as you are to see anything resembling professionally written news stories.

19 posted on 07/13/2014 5:15:27 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Common core testing is not repaired by the local teachers. If Common Core is fully implemented via Internet, the testing and the grading will be done in some centralized location, the results analyzed and the student scores will become part of a permanent record.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 5:19:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oddly enough, most good teachers that get caught up in that crap which this nonsense seeks to protect with all its headspinning would quit in frustration long before it got to the end and they were cleared.


21 posted on 07/13/2014 5:57:17 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I went into teaching after retiring from the military. While expecdting dramatic changes from the time I was student (25 years earlier), I was stunned by the lack of discipline in the school; the inmates were literally running the asylum and administrators were unable or unwilling to regain control.

Spent three years in teaching before moving on...most disappointing years of my life. I salute the few, quality teachers who can actually impart knowledge to the young skulls full of mush and motivate them to learn.

Unfortunately, teachers of that caliber are few and far between; these days, too many are butt kissers, clock watchers and political hacks who make sure they are aligned with their union and its policies. If you’re in tight with the (incompetent) administrators and the union shop bosses, you’re a cinch for tenure, regardless of teaching skill. And once tenure is secured, the level of effort dissipates pretty fast.

To be fair, there are still a few good public schools. My grand-daughter goes to an excellent middle school in a county where the median income is between $60-70K a year, and the parents are actively involved. But I can drive 15 miles from that location and show you schools in a near-by district that look (and operate) like something in the Third World. Actually, that’s a bit unfair, since most third world schools are more orderly than their American counterparts.

Public education in American is largely dead and done, but no one is willing to admit it. My advice to anyone with children preparing to enter school (and outside the few “quality” districts) is simple: home school, private school or move to a good district. Make the sacrifices required, and both you and your child will be eternally grateful.


22 posted on 07/13/2014 5:59:21 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Tanniker Smith

I would agree, that is a likely scenario.


23 posted on 07/13/2014 5:59:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I always appreciate your insightful comments as a former NYC dweller myself. Where did you escape to, generally speaking?


24 posted on 07/13/2014 6:40:39 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Every week I read yet another story that makes me soooo damn glad I moved out of that fetid, rotten, stinking, vomit inducing liberal cesspool posing as a city.

LOL! You're not the only one who feels that way. I left in 1980 and haven't been been back for over fifteen years.

You couldn't pay me enough to go back for even one day.

25 posted on 07/13/2014 7:22:12 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until at least January 2017.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

tenure?

Then give them their day in court.


26 posted on 07/13/2014 9:37:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: verga

??

Teachers again


27 posted on 07/13/2014 9:37:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Have you looked at the sites / links I gave you?


28 posted on 07/14/2014 4:00:13 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: bolobaby
Teachers = more sexual misconduct than liberals could possibly dream up for the Catholic Church.

And both groups combined is one tenth the amount for parents and other family members.

http://helpforhurt.org

If the link does not work cut and paste it into your browser. More than 80 percent of victims (84%) were abused by a parent or parents. Mothers acting alone were responsible for 47 percent of neglect victims and 32 percent of physical abuse victims. Non relatives, fathers acting alone, and other relatives were responsible for 29 percent, 22 percent and 19 percent, respectively, of sexual abuse victims.

29 posted on 07/14/2014 4:44:53 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

I told you that the links don’t work.


30 posted on 07/14/2014 6:32:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

And I told you to cut and paste and put it in the browser. Just as I said in post 29 on this thread.


31 posted on 07/14/2014 7:21:23 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: rllngrk33

Look at this, todays news from the cesspool. THIRTY year rap sheet, 36 arrests and he’s out walking the street engaging in his favorite hobby. And you know what, they’ll let him out AGAIN...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/exclusive-subway-pervert-beats-felony-rap-due-sex-abuse-loophole-article-1.1865600


32 posted on 07/14/2014 7:22:27 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I read the story and I’m not surprised. Yet another reason to never return.


33 posted on 07/14/2014 7:55:48 AM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until at least January 2017.)
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To: Salvation
These links should all work

http://www.safehorizon.org/page/child-abuse-facts-56.html

helpforhurt.org

Statistics on Perpetrators of Child Sexual Abuse (scroll down to page 172

Perpatrators demographics (scroll down 1/3 for chart)

11 facts about child abuse

Priests commit no more abuse than other males (scroll half way down over 3/4 committed by family members.)

34 posted on 07/14/2014 9:58:59 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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