Guardsman kills 2 people, self in northern Utah

WTHR.COM ^ | 14 JULY 2014 | ANNIE KNOX - AP

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - An Army National Guardsman left a suicide note in his northern Utah home before killing a college student and one other person early Monday, then fatally shooting himself at another home, authorities said.

Jared Tolman, 23, wrote that he was sorry, and that what he was about to do was selfish, said Logan Police Lt. Rod Peterson.

He is reported to have sent a series of unanswered text messages to Mackenzie Madden before he kicked down the door of her apartment two blocks from Utah State University shortly after midnight.

He then fired an assault rifle multiple times at Madden and a 25-year-old man, both people he knew, police said.

[cloudmountain]

That comment was worthy of Westboro Baptist, not FR.

The Westboro Baptist Church is an American unaffiliated Baptist church known for its extreme ideologies, especially those against gay people. Wikipedia
Address: 3701 SW 12th St, Topeka, KS 66604
: Fred Phelps

From the Internet: The Topeka, Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is a small virulently homophobic, anti-Semitic hate group that regularly stages protests around the country, often several times a week. The group pickets institutions and individuals they think support homosexuality or otherwise subvert what they believe is God’s law.
Incorporated in 1967 as a not-for-profit organization, WBC considers itself an “Old School (or Primitive)” Baptist Church. WBC’s leader is Fred Phelps and several of his children and dozens of his grandchildren appear to constitute the majority of the group’s members. WBC has no official affiliation with mainstream Baptist organizations.

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I've never heard of these people. You would THINK that there would be some news of them, somewhere, sometime.

I would THINK that the Baptists would preach against them, as they give a bad name to Baptists.

And this is in KANSAS?

Thanks for their NAME; I learned something.

[AppyPappy]

Well, obviously he was crazy. She was right to avoid him.

[cloudmountain]

Well, obviously he was crazy. She was right to avoid him.

I always dated guys that were friends of friends, "known quantities. My sister introduced me to my husband. Lol. I KNEW that he was thoroughly vetted by my sister.
Daughters are USUALLY protected by dad, as I we were. But when WOMEN date, they have to be uber careful.

RULE 1: Meeting men in bars is a no-no. Of course, it might be the same in the reverse, too.

[TalonDJ]

No. You fail at reading comprehension.

[cloudmountain]

I thought you had a good point. You never said she deserved it. You made an inciteful statement on hoe cavalier people are with each others emotions. Was that at play here? Maybe not. But it is still a useful thing to note about today’s society. It is not justifying a murder to say people should be smarter and more careful about how they toss around the affections, giving and revoking at a whim.

Thank you.

I was making a note at how CAVALIER people are sometimes with others' emotions. It's not really fair sometimes.

"Giving and revoking at a whim."
GREAT summation.

[cloudmountain]

Giving and revoking at whim...is never right, no matter who does it. I just got that message from a FReeper. It describes people who play with others’ emotions. THAT is never right.

[cloudmountain]

you stupid arse....blaming the dead people again.... this murder AGAIN by a me, me, me arrogant creep who can only think of one thing and that is that he is going to show what a big man he is.... killing two young people and you condone it....pathetic.. in the old days of Free Republic, we didn't have these blame the victims first mentality.....FR is hardly recognizable anymore....its just disgusting.

And YOU stoop to name calling. Shame on you.

My point: it's never right to play with others' emotions. You know that's true.

[cloudmountain]

See post 35.

[rabidralph]

You and Ted Bundy would have been good friends.

[cloudmountain]

See post #35 and try to be less rabid abusive.
Shame on you.

[SgtHooper]

Haha, yes, I believe you are correct on all points!!

[cloudmountain]

Haha, yes, I believe you are correct on all points!!

Thanks, Sarge.

I always remember "Beetle Bailey" and his "Sarge" when I see the title "Sgt."

Thanks for serving.

[SgtHooper]

The honor and pleasure was all mine!