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Student says she was expelled from college after gay marriage
KATU.COM ^ | 14 JULY 2014 | AP

Posted on 07/14/2014 9:10:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A woman said Monday that she was expelled from a private, Christian college in suburban Oklahoma City because she married her same-sex partner.

Christian Minard, 22, said she received a letter last week from Southwestern Christian University notifying her of the expulsion after returning from her honeymoon in Las Vegas. Minard said she did not know how the university learned of her March 17 marriage in Albuquerque, New Mexico, though she did say she posted her marriage license on Facebook.

"I'm not friends with anyone from my university. And there have been pictures of us because we've been in relationship for 3½ years, and no one ever said word," Minard said.

University Academic Vice President and Provost Connie Sjoberg said Minard had been a student at the school in the Oklahoma City suburb of Bethany but no longer was. She said federal privacy laws kept her from providing details.

"We are limited in what we can discuss," Sjoberg said. "We would definitely love to address that (reason for expulsion), but we need permission from the individual to speak in depth."

(Excerpt) Read more at katu.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda

1 posted on 07/14/2014 9:10:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Perhaps she just learned that actions have consequences.


2 posted on 07/14/2014 9:12:56 PM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

1) If this is your lifestyle, why did you attend a private Christian school? We are seeing more of this. Like non-Catholics outraged their Catholic university won’t pay for birth control.

2) If you have no contract with the private school stating otherwise, they can expel you for any reason they wish (unless you can prove some kind of fraud). This is the whole ‘private’ thing.

3) Expelling a student for a same sex marriage by digging into her life... not okay. Firing a CEO for supporting traditional marriage by digging into his life... totally okay. Double standard?


3 posted on 07/14/2014 9:16:33 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The school administrators must wear blindfolds if it took a facebook posting for them to figure out her preferences.


4 posted on 07/14/2014 9:17:45 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Obviously the college staff is following her around since facebook posts are top-secret. There are security protocols ensuring that no one ever sees them.


5 posted on 07/14/2014 9:18:14 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The Constitution guarantees freedom of association. Its a basic liberty. If the Government tries to force this woman’s presence and affiliation with this private religious inspired college against the will of that community, then Freedom of Association and Freedom of Religion are meaningless. Can the government force a Catholic seminary to accept a sworn jihadist?


6 posted on 07/14/2014 9:21:01 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Student says she was expelled from college after gay marriage

She married a rump ranger?

I thought they didn't like girls.

7 posted on 07/14/2014 9:27:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Another article says students sign a “lifestyle covenant”.. So this person signed it and knows she violated it..


8 posted on 07/14/2014 9:29:57 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My response to her is “So?” “Private Christian College.” Sorry dear the Butthurt Department is closed.


9 posted on 07/14/2014 9:30:15 PM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: PAR35

They probably extended the charitable assumption that she and her “friend” were simply friends. Two women can live together without being in a romantic/sexual relationship. But once she made clear that she was going against the school’s belief action had to be taken.


10 posted on 07/14/2014 9:32:57 PM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The article says she knew she violated a conduct code she signed. Even by being gay she was in violation, so I guess the marriage pushed the issue to the extreme. The school probably found out by her filing paperwork for aid as “married” or something. Married makes you independent and usually eligible for more aid. Schools often look into this.

Why choose this private school if you don't hold it's values? She now wants to transfer to a state school, probably saving herself money.

I'm always suspicious of those that put themselves in situations where they know the rules, agree to them or pretend to with a signature, and then run to make a huge deal out of it when caught. Maybe she needs to sue to pay back her student loans. :/

11 posted on 07/14/2014 9:35:45 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Duuuh. She knew that was going to happen but wanted the attention.


12 posted on 07/14/2014 9:35:59 PM PDT by bgill
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To: MacMattico

They know that they violate a Christian university’s rules, they do this so that they can cry to the media about religious intolerance and to degrade Biblical Christianity in the name of the world. It’s Satan fighting against God and His truth, plain and simple..


13 posted on 07/14/2014 9:45:51 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Viennacon

Homosexuals are doing this deliberately. They plan on using the force of government to destroy as many Christian businesses as they can, and then to attack churches that hold to the truth. It’s only a matter of time before pastors will be prosecuted for saying the homosexuality is a sin.


14 posted on 07/14/2014 9:49:29 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: MacMattico

This brings up an interesting topic.

Yearly tuition costs at Southwestern Christian? $13,275.

If she had gone to University of Texas? They charge by the field of study. So, if you were going for a communications degree....the full-year of tuition would be $4,832. For business? $5,369. For nursing, $5,181.

So she was spending roughly 2.5 times her cash for a degree, that she could have gotten for less cost. Who paid the $13,275 a year for her? I’m guessing her parents covered most of this. Why attend a private-christian university? I’m not sure there’s any educational benefit to the setting....other than less alcohol consumption (one would assume).

As for transferring credit? There’s one interesting aspect. If she was three years into the program, there might be some limits. Most major universities will require that you take a minimum of one full-year of classes and all related within your field of study. I’m guessing in this case....she might have a minimum of five classes that she’ll have to re-take in some fashion, and it’ll add at least one year....maybe even eighteen months....onto her schedule.

As for stupidity in assuming that the university wouldn’t ever hear about her marriage? The minute you do something in life like marriage and you try to hide it for some reason....you are dealing with disaster and chaos. I can’t imagine someone being that stupid. Any bets that she’s simply studying for a liberal arts degree?


15 posted on 07/14/2014 9:53:36 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Pining_4_TX

Homomarxist activist looking for a big payday.

Pray America wakes up


16 posted on 07/14/2014 10:12:09 PM PDT by bray (Palin 2016)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And... what’s the problem with the college booting her?


17 posted on 07/14/2014 10:15:37 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I went to her facebook page. Her PROFILE picture is her and her girlfriend. I didn’t need to be friends with her to find that out.

And her likes pretty much identify her gender preferences.

So she should not be surprised.


18 posted on 07/14/2014 10:36:25 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cyclotic

I jumped in a swimming pool and ruined a perfectly good tuxedo. Someone has to pay! /sarcasm ;)


19 posted on 07/14/2014 11:07:20 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“She married a rump ranger?”

Probably should be referred to as a “rug ranger” ;)


20 posted on 07/14/2014 11:08:51 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Pining_4_TX
Homosexuals are doing this deliberately. They plan on using the force of government to destroy as many Christian businesses as they can, and then to attack churches that hold to the truth. It’s only a matter of time before pastors will be prosecuted for saying the homosexuality is a sin.

Yep.

21 posted on 07/14/2014 11:13:53 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: pepsionice
Why attend a private-christian university? I’m not sure there’s any educational benefit to the setting

Typically, the benefit of a religious school is that it's possible to study, without blasting music and drugged-out kids staggering around till 4 a.m. And if you're a girl, you don't have to walk down the hall to the bathroom dressed in armor, since every conceivable public and private space is co-ed.

In a word, religious schools—where people actually practice a religion—are where you have to go if you want a normal life. They are the way the rest of the country used to be. What that girl was doing there was enjoying the benefits of civilization while waging her special war against them.

22 posted on 07/14/2014 11:14:38 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“I’m not friends with anyone from my university.”

Why is that?


23 posted on 07/14/2014 11:22:37 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cyclotic

I dug further into this story. Basically....she was one semester away from graduation. Whatever she was studying...will have some fair limits on crossing over to another college. So, I’d take a guess that she’s got at least three semesters of college left now. Just another year of your life...and probably another $15,000 in tuition and costs. Maybe it’s worth the consequences....but I kinda doubt it.


24 posted on 07/14/2014 11:32:52 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It is a private school and if you are a student you agree to an honor code in order to attend. The school is well within their rights.

When I was at BYU, I was involved in a protest because a friend who was in her last semester was expelled because she started attending a Christian church instead of the LDS one and had her scholarships retroactively cancelled. The school in that case was in the wrong because AT THE TIME, their Honor Code did not state or even imply that leaving the LDS church was a violation of the code. If it had it would not have been an issue. She didn’t violate the Honor Code, and still maintained an ‘ecclesiastical endorsement’ from her new pastor (something all students are required to have).

When I left the LDS church about a year later, BYU put a hold on my records for a ‘library fine’ for a book I never checked out (I had already left the school earlier that year) and thus costing me over 2 years worth credits and forcing me to start my BA degree over. However, right after that, the BYU Honor Code was changed to state that leaving the LDS church is a violation of their Honor Code and thus now they can properly expel you for violating it.

This lesbian girl should have known that she was violating school rules by engaging in such behavior (I refuse to call it marriage). Actions have consequences.

More importantly, she is violating God’s rules and that should be a huge concern for her.


25 posted on 07/14/2014 11:37:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Cover pic:


26 posted on 07/14/2014 11:42:09 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: pepsionice
Why attend a private-christian university? I’m not sure there’s any educational benefit to the setting...

Probably more educating and less leftist propaganda going on there

27 posted on 07/14/2014 11:47:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cyclotic

She learned she could make herself a victum and sue.


28 posted on 07/15/2014 12:04:52 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: SamuraiScot
What that girl was doing there was enjoying the benefits of civilization while waging her special war against them.

You expressed this PERFECTLY. As Western Civilization falls it is not utopia taking its place, but chaos. Reminds me of some people who say they understand the difference between right and wrong and don't need a bible to tell them. They miss the fact that they are living in what remains of a Christian society and they are marinated in it, even if unwillingly. Crush the godly and find out just how not-nice things will be.

29 posted on 07/15/2014 12:09:52 AM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Already happens in the UK. It has happened to him twice.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/preacher-arrested-for-calling-homosexuality-a-sin.html


30 posted on 07/15/2014 12:10:34 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: pepsionice

//.she was one semester away from graduation. //

Then she should have been smart and waited to ‘get married’


31 posted on 07/15/2014 12:15:05 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: reaganaut

I was in midst of program at state university when I married my dear husband. The department head made it clear he did not approve of women getting married while in the program. So... I hid it until I graduated. Consequences, he would not recommend me to an architectural or design firm for a position. This truly did hurt me as it was 1979... Midst of the Carter malaise. Should not have happened, all others achieved immediate employment. Our graduating class was only ten people. Even the firm I had interned with...architect told me he could not hire me because I was married and would be getting preggers any day! I told him I was not newly married, two years married and we were not planning to start having kids in the near term.
Funny.. Out of desperation I took a sales job with an agency that called on architects and met this same idiot when he came to one of their cocktail events. Even funnier...he was engaged to one of my coworkers.... He was embarrassed to say the least. Crazy world! This was in a public university...now they wish to control what a private university can do? Screw the Govt. University...they didn’t build that and they didn’t pay for it...the taxpayers do. PRIVATE citizens PAY for the Christian Universities...don’t like the rules? Leave!


32 posted on 07/15/2014 1:41:58 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: antceecee; mrreaganaut

My husband’s grandparents went through something similar. His grandfather was older and a bus driver for the school district. At the time the condition was bus drivers could not be married at all. His grandmother was a senior in High School but aged 18. They got married in September and hid it until graduation in May. We still have the graduation/marriage announcement where they stated they were married the previous fall.


33 posted on 07/15/2014 2:10:48 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: reaganaut

I did not change to my married name until I received my degree. I feel so bad still, I love my husband and proud to take his name. He supported me through getting my degree and had no problem with it.... Love him so very much. Amazing man!


34 posted on 07/15/2014 2:24:02 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

There was a pastor prosecuted in Red Deer, Alberta. He was preaching on that, and the human rights commission got him.


35 posted on 07/15/2014 3:09:41 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Minard said she did not know how the university learned of her March 17 marriage in Albuquerque, New Mexico, though she did say she posted her marriage license on Facebook

Well gee, let me guess...

36 posted on 07/15/2014 3:42:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Viennacon
3) Expelling a student for a same sex marriage by digging into her life... not okay. Firing a CEO for supporting traditional marriage by digging into his life... totally okay. Double standard?

She posted it on her freakin' Facebook site. No digging into her private life was necessary; she advertised it for all to see.

37 posted on 07/15/2014 3:44:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: lastchance

You can’t get much more ‘butch’ than the ‘husband’. About as far as you can get from a ‘lipstick’.


38 posted on 07/15/2014 4:48:53 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Minard said she did not know how the university learned of her March 17 marriage in Albuquerque, New Mexico, though she did say she posted her marriage license on Facebook.

There you go, cause and effect.

39 posted on 07/15/2014 5:36:49 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: PAR35

I did not see any photos, thanks for the info.


40 posted on 07/15/2014 10:58:30 AM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: lastchance

The one wearing the suspenders and pants at the “wedding”:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/11/us/oklahoma-lesbian-student-expelled/


41 posted on 07/15/2014 5:23:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Are they quite sure that person is female?


42 posted on 07/15/2014 5:48:36 PM PDT by lastchance (People)
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To: Bulwyf; reaganaut

Amazing. It won’t be long until it happens here. Praying for God’s protection for His people.


43 posted on 07/15/2014 9:19:32 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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