Posted on 07/16/2014 5:09:56 AM PDT by McGruff
You really can't deny that.
But then I have noticed that since the Ukrainian poker game got warmed up, the chorus of support for the Russians has grown louder and louder.
Keep in mind that reading Russia is a art. They are now and have always been masters of deception. They play this game better than anyone, past or present with one exception during WWII when Hitler snookered Stalin into killing all of his military leadership just prior to Hitler's invasion of Russia.
Reopening that base on Cuba is purposeful, but it not to improve signals intel. It's just a pawn move in a chess game.
It's the constant spin by the Russians that "the game has just started," when it has been going-on for decades. And the notion that the Russians "would not be moving their pieces" if we only didn't move ours is laughable on its face.
I think that the point being made about our effect on the Chess game, is that we are not playing. Let me expand the point, because it is important.
If we were playing the strategy employed by the Russians would be modified or perhaps entirely different.
It’s as if the Obama Admin is unaware or believes that appeasement will lead the Russians to slow or stop their game.
This was tried before and failed. multiple times.. At least Bush was engaged and kept the game at a stalemate. Not so with Obama.
Now having said that, if the Obama administration would prepare for their next move by reopening the placement of defensive missiles in Poland and raise the stakes of the game. I would not be saying this..
One can easily foretell that reopening the base has a purpose and that purpose would be similar to the reasoning behind stationing numerous Russian ships in and near central America. This base, once reopened will be used as the reason for a strategic Russian naval presence. IMO
Since our Space program, (the old excuse) is all but totally dormant. They will re-task the base. The idea is to mitigate any possibility of the US considering a first strike capability should Russia go too far in Eastern Europe. They will do this by positioning their launch capability close to our shores....again....
If you neuter or reduce the US strike capability and take it out of the strategic consideration, then it follows that you can be quite brazen with your other activities and plans.
I guess the real question is...What will Obama do about it?
I think he will do nothing and allow the balance of power to shift to Russia, thinking that it will make no difference in their future actions.
Of course, Obama would be, like his predecessors Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman....Completely wrong.....
Just wait until Obama hears about this on the news!
Oh yeah...he knows....LOL
And so have we -- at least since Khrushchev. Why do you think they put missiles in Cuba in the first place? Pay attention.
You keep referring to that thought, but I think it is probably based on events and the arguments about the Ukraine.
I think you are wrong in thinking that the Ukraine events are not part of the chess game we are discussing.
After the breakup of the USSR, Russia's Baltic fleet was mothballed and essentially rusted, particularly their nuclear subs.These subs, that we have invested heavily in, when deployed have a tendency to change the deterrent balance.
Currently I believe that they are concerned about this and I also believe that the Ukraine move is all about the ports and pipelines and controlling the security and media (all information gathering) in and near the ports and shipyards. To do that, they need to control at least the entire Western and Southern Ukraine and all of it would be optimal.
This will enable them to build a sub fleet that is second to none to counter ours and shift the balance of deterrent power and as they do, they can control the message, and the prying eyes.
Since they are not there yet and have much work to do, the positioning of naval assets close to our shores reduce the missile travel time and temporarily fill that need until they have enough assets to do it without the subterfuge they have been using of late..
Maybe you misunderstood me, then. Let’s simply say that I follow Russian propaganda very closely (and frankly, there is no better source than FR for it). It’s the same excuse, again and again. “If only we didn’t do this, the Russians wouldn’t have done that.” Again, laughable.
As a result, the power balance will have to shift in favor of Russia and this always emboldens them to take risks. It is in their nature to do so. So yes, I am paying attention. I have been since I came of age in the early 60s...I have been paying attention closely.
Personally, I think we could have put a tripwire detachment of US troops in the Ukraine when it became clear that Russia was going to do something.
But we did not...
The key is anticipating their moves, just like in chess. However if you miss the clues or fail to anticipate, it is generally too late to do anything.
I seriously doubt this was a intelligence failure. LOL
What it was, was incompetence.
Facing a weak US president, who is hated by allies for spying, and whose top domestic priorities are homosexuality and illegal aliens, it's a no brainer.
We lost the Bay of Pigs, remember?
To where?
And if Russia had tripped the tripwire then you would have gone to war over there?
Short answer........
You don’t do something like that unless you are willing to follow through.
Why should the NSA monopolize spying on US citizens?
I submit that better answer is that you don't do something like that without a damned good reason for doing so. The rest of Europe wasn't willing to help defend the Ukraine, why should the U.S. have gone it alone?
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