Posted on 07/16/2014 10:48:49 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
Yeah, I know how you feel. After the third time in a row it happed I lost my temper a bit. I stated "Then WHY have you and the last three companies felt that it was necessary to waste MY time?"
I got up and left.
I also found an offer package in my mail the same day I got back from that interview... I took that job.
In my chosen profession (accounting), that means the job will re-open in 12 months, after everything's gone to hell. Then we'll bring you on until you clean everything up (up to 24 months), and we'll say "management has decided to move in a different direction."
Wash, rinse, repeat...
After talking with a floor supervisor of a company that manufactures the machines that make drinking cups I found this out. His company has a revolving door. They hire and fire constantly. The biggest problem is that there is no work ethic. No one wants to be on ‘time’. And, no one wants to work when the employer needs them to work.
Get real!
Money is the ONLY reason I am there for an interview.
Also, many corporations actively share their own wage and salary information with their business competitors.
That by itself is completely legal.
But then, afterwards, there is an unspoken, self-sorting, gentleman's agreement not to compete against each other on the basis of pay.
Think about that.
You can go to 2 job interviews on the same day, both employers might refuse to quote an exact salary, but each one knows what the other guy is going to offer you!
One of my friends interviewed a candidate who had average grades and no extra curricular activities. My friend asked why. The student’s response. I am paying for my education myself so I work 20 hours a week on a lobster boat (not family) on weekends I work on my dad’s boat and give what I earn to my parents who need the money.
My friend hired the student on the spot and said he never met a graduate with that strong of work ethic.
Well, you are a veteran.
They probably scraped the bottom of the barrel of PC candidates and couldn’t find a black, gay, female to fill it with...........;^)
I want all these whiny CEO’s to not only hire these illegals, but also house them. If they are THAT freakin’ critical to your business, you’ll find a way. Bob
A certain Company hired a senior manager (projects and people) who had no prior experience/job knowledge in the Company’s business. And less than zero people skills. The beyond incompetent senior manager hired a H.R. guy who became the senior manager’s flunkie.
Morale plummeted. Only the Company owners were happy as the senior manager kissed their asses, so they did not care that the senior manager made many mistakes$$$$ (always someone else’s fault of course).
The Company senior manager hired friends and particularly his own (Hispanic) race candidates, promoting such newbies over far more skilled and experienced staff. Conducted personal vendettas, etc. And caused the Company even to get a bad reputation with the local temp agency due to the way it would let go workers without even a full day advance notice.
Finally, a larger Company bought it and sent it a competent manager who cleaned house of the incompetents. A much better place now.
The beyond incompetent senior manager had been hired by the wife of the Company owner. While lacking any ghost of job qualifications, the senior manager maded to make her happy.
Later the Company owner and his wife divorced. The beyond incompetent senior manager got a job with another company. From which it was understood he got let go from.
People who’ve worked for many of them (e.g., temps) know that they want politically correct, pathological social skills instead of technical skills.
The company I just retired from (for the fourth time) had problems for several years in finding qualified CNC machine operators. They had a pretty strict requirement that applicants had verifiable experience or a trade school diploma, even though their starting wages were in the absolute lower range for the area. They moved some of their non-skilled employees, those who had shown some potential and a good work ethic, into a development program and trained them in house. Two years later they have doubled their output without lowering their quality standards, and wages are up to a competitive level. They took a risk and accepted that there would be some short term loss of profit margin due to inexperienced operators working slower and with slightly more waste.
This concept was very popular several years ago but companies now want all the hard work of training done by someone else so they can just kick back and make the easy money. I believe many places who “just can’t find qualified workers” could and should go retro and create qualified workers.
A lot have companies have eliminated their HR departments.
Finding qualified staff is professional management’s job one. As your story shows there are way to do their job. It is disgusting listening to these pampered and overpaid executives complaining that they can’t do their jobs.
It’s easier to go buy a congressman to help them import Bangladeshis.
Good story...I’ll bet those workers are more loyal to that company.
problem in a nutshell...
it used to be an employers market...
now it is an employees market...
the employers just have not gotten around to “changing” their attitude...
in short order we will see new apprenticeship programs, and a jump in pay for experienced employees...
and the older people looking for work will find it at decent compensation..
(i have seen about 6 of these cycles in my lifetime, so this opinion is based upon experience)
I used to be a recruiter so I speak interview...
“Your resume is too strong for the position we’re looking to fill.” Translates to:
“I should be working for you, so I won’t hire you.”
Yeah, don’t you hate that? I mean, does anyone read them before the interview?
Yeah...I need to brush up on my “interview”. I’ve been self-employed so long I hardly remember what it was like to work for a paycheck, much less actually interview for a job.
......and that is why we need more illegal immigrants to fill these positions. So saith Reid, Pelosi, Obama, United States Chamber of Commerce, La Raza, ..., and Juan Valdez.
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