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'We warned you not to fly in our sky': Boasts of Russian separatist as evidence emerges of....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | July 17, 2014 | WILL STEWART

Posted on 07/17/2014 12:04:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

They knew what they were shooting.

Remember KAL 007.


41 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:28 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Later as the horror became clear, the tweet was deleted.

Dishonest, hypocritical cowards. they knew what tehy were shooting.

Remember KAL 007.

42 posted on 07/17/2014 7:53:58 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: conservaKate

Agreed. I have had that exact conversation with all too many. They seem to be Paulinistas as well and Alex Jones fans. They have a grand conspiracy theory which includes what a wonderful Christian Vlad is.

Likeyou I just don’t get it....I attribute it to some being too young to know what the KGB and the Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia) is all about


43 posted on 07/17/2014 8:54:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: dforest

Keep telling yourself that.


44 posted on 07/17/2014 8:57:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This won’t stop our anti-American/pro-Putinistas from claiming Putin’s thugs are innocent. It’s the planes fault. It Ukraine’s fault. It’s not Putin’s and the air defense personnel who fired the missile who are to blame, as they see it.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 3:11:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What are the chances that Malaysian Airlines flight MH17
and Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are the same plane?
Both were Boeing 777’s.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 3:51:20 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Nifster

“I want the Putinistas”

Putinistas? How about Putinoids, Putinites or my favorite
Putinarians. I like Putin, when he is pimp slapping the
Obama and Kerry around like the little bitches that they are
but that’s about it. Otherwise he’s just a punk commie.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 4:00:09 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Zero.

Why would you even think this?


48 posted on 07/18/2014 4:54:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Why would you even think this?”

Just the odds. 2 planes same airline, same type of plane,
both lost in abnormal circumstances. One is never found the
other may cause an international incident.
Why would you think “zero” odds?


49 posted on 07/18/2014 5:07:27 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Better question..... did the same bad guys down both planes

Gibbs rule # 39: There’s no such thing as coincidence


50 posted on 07/18/2014 5:16:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. NEgypt.C. GOPc.+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Alas Babylon!
My question is who directed them to follow this flight path.

They should be questioned.

51 posted on 07/18/2014 5:31:23 AM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: Slambat

Because 300 planes are flying across the Ukraine on a daily basis.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2697098/THREE-HUNDRED-planes-scheduled-fly-Ukraine-day-MH17-tragedy.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Well, not anymore!

Still, When you look at a map of the world, you’ll see that any flights going form Europe to Southeast Asia would fly over or close to the Ukraine. And for Malaysia Air in particular, flying direct saves on avgas, which saves a lot of money, which is what they don’t have enough of, given the flight that disappeared.

One outcome of this will probably be that Malaysia airlines will go out of business. I mean, would anyone want to fly on them after both of these incidents?

And while the disappearance of MH370 is odd and unsolved, yesterday’s incident now seems sadly destined to happen, given the factors of a war, Russians* using sophisticated missile systems to shoot down Ukrainian Air Force cargo planes, and 300 flights a day in their skies.

*By Russians, I mean Russian-speaking Ukrainians, even if a great deal of the rebel fighters allied with them were, until recently, soldiers in the Russian Army.


52 posted on 07/18/2014 5:35:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: McGruff

If this was the only flight that day it would be a great question; but it is not.

The Daily Mail, UK, has an article that says there are 300 flights over the Ukraine on a DAILY basis. Your map shows none of them, and if any actually flew over that part of the Ukraine, but with 300 a day, I’m sure there were probably a few.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2697098/THREE-HUNDRED-planes-scheduled-fly-Ukraine-day-MH17-tragedy.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

The reason to fly over this airspace is very apparent when one looks at a world map. The direction from a Northern European airport to Kuala Lampur or Singapore takes the flight over Southeastern Ukraine. Direct flights save a lot of avgas, which cost the airlines money. There was no doubt a financial imperative to save avgas for this cash-strapped airline. Well, now there is a financial imperative to avoid that airspace. For whatever reason (probably money again), the airlines thought that flying at at least 10KM (34,000 ft) would be safe even over a civil war.


53 posted on 07/18/2014 5:43:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The rebels had to have gotten the codes to fire that missile and previous missiles, Putin again.


54 posted on 07/18/2014 7:55:15 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Slambat

And commies have always enjoyed beating up on weak US presidents


55 posted on 07/18/2014 8:09:41 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Igor the Terrible!!


56 posted on 07/18/2014 11:31:49 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm an old USAF SAC veteran from the 1980s era.

If an SA-11 Tactical Surface to Air Missile system shot at anything, anywhere on this earth, we, as in the USA, know who did it, and we know exactly where and when it was launched.
So does every nation in NATO.
As does every government in the entire world, with the possible exceptions of many in Africa and South America.

“Google” probably has it on camera.

Re-naming the very well known TACSAM weapon system the “BRUK” is a rather feeble way to make it seem mysterious and hard to track.

Just saying....

57 posted on 07/19/2014 6:00:55 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Alas Babylon!
Maylasia was not alone in making that determination.

At the altitude they were flying, one could argue it would be unreasonable and illogical to expect any SAM weapon system capable of shooting them down, were also incapable of identifying them as a commercial airline, and hense not a threat.

Russian terrorists in Ukraine drunkenly played with some seriously dangerous big-boy toys, provided to them by Putin.

Expect more of this type of stupidity worldwide.

There is a reason we fought the USSR in the “Cold War”, and a reason we won that one.
Those people are both utterly vicious and utterly stupid.
It was the stupid part that allowed us to prevail.

58 posted on 07/19/2014 6:28:55 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom

While I agree with you, think about all the stupid voters in this country, given what’s in the White House now. We’ll no more come 2016...

It makes you shudder...


59 posted on 07/19/2014 7:34:37 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Slambat

Good grief. This flight departed from Amsterdam.


60 posted on 07/20/2014 9:39:54 AM PDT by FBD
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