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'We warned you not to fly in our sky': Boasts of Russian separatist as evidence emerges of....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | July 17, 2014 | WILL STEWART

Posted on 07/17/2014 12:04:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Rebel commander Igor Strelkov - widely believed in Kiev to be a serving Russian military intelligence officer - tweeted a boastful message shortly after Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 was downed.

The tweet indicated he thought his rebels had shot down an Antonov-26 military plane of the Ukrainian Air Force. The Antonov is a turboprop transport plane of a type used by Ukraine's forces.

The message read: 'In the area Torez we just hit down An-26, it's lying somewhere in the mine "Progress".

'We warned you- do not fly in "our sky". And here is the video confirmation of the "bird dropping".

'Bird fell fell near the mine, the residential sector was not disturbed. Civilians are not injured.'

Later as the horror became clear, the tweet was deleted.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; ukraine
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1 posted on 07/17/2014 12:04:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sepratist’s huge missle launcher seen by reporters earlier.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 12:05:52 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What’s daming is the quick admission/bragging that they brought down the plane and the whereabouts. Going to be hard to refudiate seeing as they had all the answers right away.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 12:07:43 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So the Russian led forces immediately had claim responsibility and now want to hide that claim.

Those responsible claimed such contemporaneous with the event.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 12:08:18 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How many Americans died in “their” sky today? If we were still a nation worth its salt, we would send several loads of our best bombs over eastern Ukraine and teach them a valuable lesson. I doubt Putin would challenge us to save those rural rubes.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 12:09:10 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I want the Putinistas here to explain again how peaceful and wonderful these folks are


6 posted on 07/17/2014 12:11:02 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Putin will come out later today and call the passengers Nazis, which our resident Putinists will pick up and run with.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 12:13:01 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: txrefugee

I agree. And seeing as how these ‘rural rubes’ just created a major international incident for President Putin - not to mention a serious migraine, as well - I’m like to think at this point Putin must be saying to himself that these clowns are no longer worth it.

Not after this.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 12:16:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Looks like they finally found that missing Malaysian airliner.


9 posted on 07/17/2014 12:18:37 PM PDT by Ultima
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To: Nifster

Will be interesting to hear Putin’s fan club here, on this one.


10 posted on 07/17/2014 12:23:56 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Nifster

I have to say that I’ve been puzzled by the pro Putin talk by many on the conservative side. I just don’t get how hating Obama means liking Putin?

Even prior to today’s events...since it’s not totally clear what happened to that airliner...Putin as some sort of hero? Wasn’t buying into that talk. The Russians, as well as the Chinese have been ‘evil’ empires for a bloody long time. 6 years of Obama doesn’t cure the evil...yes evil...lurking w/in those countries.

MHO


11 posted on 07/17/2014 12:24:14 PM PDT by conservaKate ( I grow weary of the goobers in the Republican party. (thanks Chris))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maybe bamster can draw a red line for igor. If it wasn’t for all the souls lost, I’d enjoy watching obamas’ balls getting squeezed by putin and his band of merry “separatists”.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 12:31:27 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: conservaKate

Because the Russians have likely infiltrated our movement, same as they’ve done the leftists. Right now Russia is building a coalition of far left and right wing parties throughout Europe both overtly and covertly, even extremist parties like Jobbick or Golden Dawn, who are Pro-Russian. There’s no hard evidence people like Alex Jones or others are on the Russkie payroll, but I think it be very odd if we didn’t also receive some of the FSB treatment other countries are getting.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 12:36:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Putin's thugs shoot down a passenger airplane
14 posted on 07/17/2014 12:36:40 PM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

When do we send in the bombers? Maybe take out one of his aircraft carriers.


15 posted on 07/17/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: conservaKate

Obama Derangement Syndrome. I despise Obama, have since before he became acting President, but that doesn’t mean I support Putin. Not the case with some, I’m afraid.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 12:46:50 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: sakic

Your right, this will go over like a fart in church.

Going to be trouble here


17 posted on 07/17/2014 12:52:22 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: txrefugee

Hashtags are being loaded on stealth bombers as we speak.


18 posted on 07/17/2014 1:08:02 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: PghBaldy

Two days ago Obama gave a speech that he brought Global Tranquility. Now we have a Malaysian jetliner shot down and Israel ground invasion. Obama has check out!


19 posted on 07/17/2014 1:18:29 PM PDT by avalonmistmoon
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To: txrefugee

Evidently, 23 on board were Americans.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 1:23:54 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just ran across this on Jester’s Twitter feed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/489860142003781632

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-admit-downing-a-civilian-plane-in-tapped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html


21 posted on 07/17/2014 1:26:56 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Russians swear they will get away with it because they are athletics worshipers, and our corrupt government and rich elites live by the athlete, no matter how brutal or dum.

If we let the Penn State rapes go on for so long, mind you, Russia will have to do much much worse than down an airliner before anyone will start reluctantly whimpering to do something about it. We will impeach Obama before we will ever react to an accidental nuking of NYC.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 1:27:28 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So how does anyone know that Mr Igor Strelkov’s twitter account was not hacked by the NSA or other agency?


23 posted on 07/17/2014 1:28:13 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: PghBaldy

The issue is not whether you like Putin but whether you believe an Obama led US is capable of taking him on with a successful outcome.

I think everyone on this board knows the answer to that question.


24 posted on 07/17/2014 1:30:08 PM PDT by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: cgbg

We shot it down

No, we didn’t do that

We warned you!!!

...

What comes next? “It was spying on us”??


25 posted on 07/17/2014 1:31:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Malaysin Airlines second plane to go down seems more important than the Ukraine/Russian squabble. The airline seems to be the target.

Throwing gas on the Ukraine/Russia fire is the cherry on top


26 posted on 07/17/2014 1:32:55 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. NEgypt.C. GOPc.+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Nifster

I take no side, but even the media hasn’t made the call on who launched the missile.

So why don’t you wait for Obama and McCain to give us the scoop.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 1:35:58 PM PDT by dforest
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To: bkopto

How does anyone know that Mr Igor Strelkov’s twitter account was not hacked by the NSA or some other agency who is actually working with Cathay Airlines in an elaborate plan to take down their competitors in Malaysia Airlines?


28 posted on 07/17/2014 1:45:35 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Tailgunner Joe

remember this... the Russians have a HISTORY of shooting down commercial planes. Both in the past were KOREAN planes.

The first was KAL 902 in 1978. Soviet air defense shot down Korean Air Lines Flight 902 (KAL 902) near Murmansk, Soviet Union, after the civilian aircraft violated Soviet airspace and failed to respond to Soviet ground control and interceptors.

Soviet air defense initially identified it as part of the US air reconnaissance force, which carried out thousands of flights along Soviet borders annually at the time. Captain Alexander Bosov, pilot of the Sukhoi Su-15 that brought down Flight 902, saw Asian logogram characters on the tail of the Korean aircraft, and reported this to the ground control. Despite this, Vladimir Tsarkov, commander of the 21st Soviet Air Defense Corps, ordered Bosov to take down the plane, as the plane failed to respond to repeated orders to land, and was approaching the Soviet border with Finland.

The second was a Korean Air Lines flight from New York City to Seoul via Anchorage. On September 1, 1983. That was KAL 007.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 2:02:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Nifster
"I want the Putinistas here to explain again how peaceful and wonderful these folks are"

They're in mourning for the moment because of what they might perceive as some sort of victory of AR owners over them in a vast western conspiracy against the Mother Church of Russia.

Obama’s Latest Executive Order Slapping Russia With Sanctions Could Affect Some AK-47-Owning Americans
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3181547/posts


30 posted on 07/17/2014 2:11:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: conservaKate

Thank you! I’ve been appalled myself because praising one communist over another makes no sense, both are evil.


31 posted on 07/17/2014 2:17:40 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Kackikat

bump


32 posted on 07/17/2014 2:19:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Can we assume that someone got a screenshot of these tweets?
33 posted on 07/17/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT by SayNoToDems (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: Kackikat

Posters like you give me back faith in humanity. Usually threads dealing with Ukraine are infested by Putinists, so it kinda warps my view


34 posted on 07/17/2014 2:51:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Putin is no better than any other Russian Communist, he just gets better social media coverage because he works out...he may be more deceptive but not any better. I was stunned how many conservatives are making nice about the guy who disses Obama...neither man is moral, godly, or gives a hoot about anything but power or control.


35 posted on 07/17/2014 2:55:20 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: SeekAndFind
KAL 007, was the place Congressman Larry McDonald was on. He was one of the Presidents of the Birch Society.

Incidentally, he spoke about the New World Order, and his belief it exist just 3 months prior.

36 posted on 07/17/2014 3:17:08 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: bkopto

It’s called Ockham’s (or “Occam’s,” if you prefer) Razor. Look it up...


37 posted on 07/17/2014 5:02:05 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: GeronL
"We shot it down

No, we didn’t do that

We warned you!!!

...

What comes next? “It was spying on us”??

" ======================================================================================

How prophetic of you!

"Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

“Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?

“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.

Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

They say on TV it’s AN-26 transport plane, but they say it’s written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine’s territory?

Nikolay Kozitsin: That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn’t be f…cking flying. There is a war going on. "

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-admit-downing-a-civilian-plane-in-tapped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html
38 posted on 07/17/2014 5:50:59 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Kozitsin is one cold SOB


39 posted on 07/17/2014 6:45:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: bert

It seems like it’s cursed


40 posted on 07/17/2014 7:15:39 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They knew what they were shooting.

Remember KAL 007.


41 posted on 07/17/2014 7:52:28 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Later as the horror became clear, the tweet was deleted.

Dishonest, hypocritical cowards. they knew what tehy were shooting.

Remember KAL 007.

42 posted on 07/17/2014 7:53:58 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: conservaKate

Agreed. I have had that exact conversation with all too many. They seem to be Paulinistas as well and Alex Jones fans. They have a grand conspiracy theory which includes what a wonderful Christian Vlad is.

Likeyou I just don’t get it....I attribute it to some being too young to know what the KGB and the Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia) is all about


43 posted on 07/17/2014 8:54:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: dforest

Keep telling yourself that.


44 posted on 07/17/2014 8:57:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This won’t stop our anti-American/pro-Putinistas from claiming Putin’s thugs are innocent. It’s the planes fault. It Ukraine’s fault. It’s not Putin’s and the air defense personnel who fired the missile who are to blame, as they see it.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 3:11:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What are the chances that Malaysian Airlines flight MH17
and Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are the same plane?
Both were Boeing 777’s.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 3:51:20 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Nifster

“I want the Putinistas”

Putinistas? How about Putinoids, Putinites or my favorite
Putinarians. I like Putin, when he is pimp slapping the
Obama and Kerry around like the little bitches that they are
but that’s about it. Otherwise he’s just a punk commie.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 4:00:09 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Zero.

Why would you even think this?


48 posted on 07/18/2014 4:54:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

“Why would you even think this?”

Just the odds. 2 planes same airline, same type of plane,
both lost in abnormal circumstances. One is never found the
other may cause an international incident.
Why would you think “zero” odds?


49 posted on 07/18/2014 5:07:27 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Slambat

Better question..... did the same bad guys down both planes

Gibbs rule # 39: There’s no such thing as coincidence


50 posted on 07/18/2014 5:16:17 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. NEgypt.C. GOPc.+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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