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How the Constitution May Screw Rand Paul for 2016
Daily Beast ^ | 7/18/14 | Michael Tomsky

Posted on 07/18/2014 8:28:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg

Rand Paul has a little-discussed problem. Yes, he’s riding a wave. Yet another new poll brings happy tidings, putting him at the top of the GOP heap in both Iowa and New Hampshire (although still well behind “undecided”). He keeps doing these clever things that titillate the Beltway sages, like coupling with Democratic Sen. Cory Booker (ooh, he’s black!) on sentencing reform. All this, you know. He’s a shrewdie, we have to give him that.

But here’s what you maybe don’t know. Paul is up for reelection in 2016. One assumes that he would want to hold on to his Senate seat. If he ran for president, he would hardly be the first person hoping to appear on a national ticket while simultaneously seeking reelection, although the other examples from the last 30 years have all been vice-presidential candidates: Paul Ryan in 2012, Joe Biden in 2008, Joe Lieberman in 2000, and… trivia question, who’s the fourth?

For those, it hadn’t been a problem. But it is for Paul, because under Kentucky law, he cannot run for two offices at the same time. The law has been on the books in the Bluegrass State for a long time. Paul quietly asked that it be changed, and the GOP-controlled state senate acquiesced this past session. But the Democrats have the majority in the lower house, and they let the bill expire without voting on it. I would reckon, unless the Kentucky state house’s Democratic majority is possessed of a shockingly benevolent character unlike every other legislative majority I’ve ever encountered, it won’t be rushing to pass it.

Paul has said that he’d just ignore the law.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 20016election; kentucky; paul; randpaul
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I know, Daily Beast, But source aside it does present a dilemma for Rand Paul. And ignorng Kentucky law isn't going to be a solution.
1 posted on 07/18/2014 8:28:18 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Paul continuing to open his mouth is what may screw him for 2016. If he keeps alienating the conservative base, he may should run as a democrat.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 8:31:33 AM PDT by boycott
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To: DoodleDawg

If Paul is delusional enough to think he has a shot at the top ring, he will not run for the Senate again.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 8:32:37 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Haven’t you kept up with the news ? Ignoring the Law is positively PRESIDENTIAL these days. . . . (evil grin)


4 posted on 07/18/2014 8:33:46 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: DoodleDawg

It only applies, I think, if he gets the nomination or is chosen for the VP slot.

I don’t think either will happen. He’ll make a run for the nomination, but his views are looking more and more like his Dad’s and he’s had a number of high profile tripups. He won’t be able to obtain it.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 8:34:30 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: DoodleDawg

This is the State law. Has zero to do with the Constitution. Otherwise ... yeah. He’s got a problem here.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 8:37:18 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: boycott

7 posted on 07/18/2014 8:37:49 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: tanknetter
It only applies, I think, if he gets the nomination or is chosen for the VP slot.

Wouldn't it also count for primaries? I assume Kentucky has one and Paul would have to be on there twice if he was running for both president and reelection to the Senate.

But primary aside, say through some miracle he does win the nomination or is chosen for the second spot on the ticket. It appears like he still intends to run for his senate seat on the chance that he doesn't win the other election. That's where the Kentucky law appears to trip him up.

8 posted on 07/18/2014 8:38:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RIghtwardHo

Yeah, I know. The title is misleading but that’s the fault of the guy who wrote it and not me.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 8:39:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

From the article: “Paul has said that he’d just ignore the law.”

Then he is no better than the illegal in the white hut. He ignores the law too. We certainly do NOT need another CIC that wants to just ignore laws that don’t suit him.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 8:39:32 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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Wouldn't he be able to make his decision on the Senate seat after the early primaries decide if he's a presidential contender?

I have some major problems with Paul, but since I'm not running I'll have problems with any candidate.

All in all, I'd support him in the general. My only "hell no" candidate who I will not support is Chris Christie.

If elected, my hope would be that Paul would rattle the comfortable cages in Washington and start slashing real spending. He's more likely to dent the budget than any other candidate.

11 posted on 07/18/2014 8:41:12 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Paul started strong then went wildly off the rails to the point of outright lying to pander to the low info voters.


12 posted on 07/18/2014 8:41:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Since the presidential race is a state by state race for electors, could he just not run in his home state and forgo the 8 electors there? Or does the law apply to running for president in other states too?


13 posted on 07/18/2014 8:44:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: DoodleDawg

What “Constitution”? I thought we threw the Constitution out the window when we decided to go police state banana republic. We’re a lawless nation now. The DemocRATS don’t worry about the Constitution, Paul shouldn’t have to worry about the Constitution either.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 8:53:01 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Since the presidential race is a state by state race for electors, could he just not run in his home state and forgo the 8 electors there? Or does the law apply to running for president in other states too?

I imagine he'd have a problem with that. States decide how electoral votes are allocated. Nothing says that electoral votes need to be allocated through popular vote; South Carolina didn't have a presidential election until well after the Civil War. Prior to that the legislature decided who the electoral votes went to. But such a change would probably need to be passed by the state legislature, and voting to deny the entire state the chance to vote on president is probably not something the legislators would be willing to do.

15 posted on 07/18/2014 8:53:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Paul has dropped 5 rungs in my ladder recently. . It’s Ted Cruz or Bust if we want a Reaganesque presidency!


16 posted on 07/18/2014 8:55:25 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: GraceG

I’ve got to admit that I was one of those Rand suckers early. But then he just started spewing a lot of silly things out of his mouth and it ran me away.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 8:57:12 AM PDT by boycott
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bttt


18 posted on 07/18/2014 9:00:52 AM PDT by deport
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To: DoodleDawg

If he would disobey the law just to run for President, imagine what he would do if he were elected.

Sorry, one dictator who ignores the law when it suits him is more than enough.


19 posted on 07/18/2014 9:02:13 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: leapfrog0202

From the article: “Paul has said that he’d just ignore the law.”

We cannot afford to replace one of their Tyrants with one of OUR tyrants because we will end up with another Tyrant...


20 posted on 07/18/2014 9:03:21 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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