What We Know And Don't Know About The Downing Of Flight MH17 And The 'Buk' Missile System

The Interpreter Magazine ^ | July 21st 2014 | Interpreter Live Thread

[Uncle Chip]

BUK systems are not much good in the hands of the Ukrainians since SAMs are programmed NOT to shoot down Russian planes.

Shirley you knew that —

[Mount Athos]

I have not introduced any disinformation.

I have pointed out three true facts that the article should have included, but did not. It claimed to be a comprehensive review of the facts, but it neglected some really big ones.

If you read my comments, you would notice I said the theory that the Separatists shot down the plane is far more likely to be true.

But you are typing away as if I have put down that the Ukrainians must have shot down the plane.

Because your reading comprehension is poor, and you type before you think.

“MH17 was NOT A THREAT to the pro-Russian forces! What they did was cold-blooded murder”

Ukraine accidentally shot down a passenger plane in 2001.
Would you describe that as cold blooded murder?

What told you it couldn’t possibly have been a misidentification? Your psychic powers? The voices in your head? They intentionally shot down a passenger plane — for what motive? It benefited them — how?

[Mount Athos]

You think that was well done?

Then do you agree with him that the shooter knowingly targeted a passenger plane?

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Then do you agree with him that the shooter knowingly targeted a passenger plane?

The "former" Communists operate under the basis of provocation, and they have been killing themselves to accomplish it for a long time. They were already shelling their own cities in the East from Russian soil to blame on the Ukrainians, and I know their character well enough that shooting down a plane would not be very out of character for them. There is a great deal of evidence, even more powerful than what we've seen here with the airline, that the FSB bombed Russian apartment buildings to stick the blame on the Chechens in order to start a patriotic war. I also know that the "separatists" are in direct contact with GRU handlers from Russia, receiving orders, which they themselves have admitted to, as the reference to Bezler in the article shows. I also know that it is very unlikely the these Buks would have been manned by just anybody, and most likely there is a mixture of "volunteers" recruited from Russia and GRU officers on the scene.

It is not against their character in any way, although, it certainly is a great failure on their part, if it was indeed on purpose, that they failed to shut their "separatists" up after the deed was done, which put the blame square on them instead of the Ukrainians they would have likely wanted to blame.

[terycarl]

there is no way that the separatists could have fired that missile...the system is very sophisticated and Oliver North has stated that it takes 2 years of training to efficiently use that system....the Russians own it and the Russians fired it......period.