Skip to comments.Airbnb user turns squatter: Woman facing legal battle to get vacationer out of her Palm Springs home
Posted on 07/22/2014 6:49:34 AM PDT by C19fan
A California Airbnb host says a guest is squatting in her 600-square-foot Palm Springs condo and is now threatening to sue her. Cory Tschogl, 39, described the situation as a 'horror story' and says she begged Airbnb for help through scores of emails and phone calls but the accommodation marketplace failed to get the renter out. He now has renters' protection under California law because he's been there longer than 30 days and it'll take three to six months, a lawyer and thousands of dollars to evict him.
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What if you show up, threaten her at gunpoint, take her to some other location, drop her off, and then return to your place and change the locks?
And deny it ever happened.
Or something along those lines...
What is “Airbnb”
Tough to do nowadays. Cameras eveywhere. Better to chance it with the woodchipper out back.
I’d get a bunch of cats with fleas and let them loose in the house...............................
Like ‘Travelocity’ only without William Shatner..................
It is Uber for rooms. You can use the app to rent your residence for vacationers/short term stays.
OOPs, that’s Priceline. Travelocity has the Gnome...............
What a nightmare —
This is going to do wonders for the real estate rental market.
I’d make that person an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Maksym is a male.
You’d get arrested for kidnappings and a whole slew of felonies. If you do something like this... You have to be absolute. Get me?
I really don’t understand the fascination with Airbnb. I certainly have no interest in using it.
Too many whack jobs out there.
Cut off gas, electric, water
Shine bright lights in windows at night
Play head banging heavy metal 24 /7 until gets message
I’d agree that some problems have permanent solutions. The world doesn’t need more predators or more parasites. I’ve lost patience with both groups, and this squatter is in the second category.
Here's the thing - what sort of guest has "great ratings" on AirBnB?
What kind of person routinely rents other people's homes all over the world?
The set of people who do this and who are not crazy/insolvent/both is too small to build a reliable business model on.
If she’s not willing to get some muscular friends to persuade him she should sell the place.
turn off power and water... then have the state show up as you’re afraid she is a danger to herself
It’s a controversy here in Grand Rapids, where some people want to be able to stick these things anywhere with no oversight.
Simple regulations like alerting people that live around you that you are turning your house into an Airbnb were scoffed at by the supporters. They also don’t want to have to pay the same fees as actual licensed B&Bs.
If you want to be a hotel, then go and be a real hotel. This type of thing is just begging for trouble.
In theory, all she would really need to do is arm herself, visit her property, and then do what any citizen has a right to if she feels threatened on her own property.
No elaborate schemes required.
And she can't really sell the place: few people are going to buy an apartment at market price when it's occupied by a belligerent criminal in the middle of an eviction proceeding.
Cut off gas, electric, water
No this is California...
a few years ago someone from another state went there to check their mother’s house after she died and they wanted to sell it...
the couple of weeks between her death and their trip to CA, some people had broken the locks and moved into the mother’s empty home..
The child/ren arrived to find the house occupied with strangers who were indignant at the suggestion they vacate the premises..
They tried everything legal to get the squatters evicted...including shutting off the utilities..
the thieves then took the new owner to court and sued and the judge made them turn the power etc back on...
so good luck with that..
Have 10 or 12 friends show up like they are going to live there too.Have them eat every scrap of food in the place and have one of them occupy the bathroom at all times.Treat them to all they can eat at Taco Bell before they arrive.
I have similar thought process. Easier would be to stake out the place and wait for them to leave. Then change locks and throw all of their crap in the trash bin.
When they call the police, just state that you don’t even know anything about the idiot’s claims, and to come back when they can produce a lease.
I was thinking more along the lines of pepper spray.
Just shutting off the power and water could work too.
It's a lot cheaper than most hotels. Locations vary so it's easier to pick where you want to stay in a city.
I took a recent trip out west & stayed in AirBnB locations the whole time. It worked out great & I saved a few hundred dollars.
In CA, the owner would probably be arrested for doing that. The freeloaders that do this stuff are experts at gaming the system. It could drag out for years.
Neighbors might not like that approach........................
Who has 10 or 12 friends who:
(1) Are willing to relocate upon request
(2) Will take vacation days to hang out in an apartment with a bizarre stranger
(3) Agree to lock themselves in a bathroom for hours to antagonize people?
I can't imagine asking any of my friends to do something like this, while I went about my own life like normal.
My daughter works for a woman who rents out her condos to people for $5000 a week. She is booked solid thru the end of September.......................
Guard the place until the squatter leaves. Don’t let anyone else enter the property to bring supplies. When the squatter is gone, make your move. Change locks. Expel any squatter stuff so there is no reason to enter the property. Have the squatter trespassed to make presence on the property a criminal act.
That would just cause you a whole new set of problems.................
Get really good homeowner insurance and put up a sign in a Biker Bar: “Crash at my place rent free. Free pot and beer.”
You may have something there. Have your 10-12 friends move right in with the squatters! It’s the same situation only your friends are now in there.
what foriegn language is Uber and what does it mean?
True grifters know and work the system, but they rely on the other party using the system. Forcing them out and then simply not acknowledging that they were ever there changes the game. They are then forced to prove that they were squatting. The squatter is then in the same position as if they had just called the police and demanded entry into a home at random.
Treat them as an insane nut job. If they break in, then treat them as you would an insane nut job breaking in.
I showed that movie every quarter to my Real Estate Law students.
I would like to see the actual contract. Let’s create a scenario. Of course, it will be fraught with potential liability to the owner.
The lowlife does not leave. Owner gives a rental agreement to a new user. That could be a little old lady or perhaps two members of a biker gang. The new user has an agreement and takes possession when the lowlife is not there. When lowlife comes back, he calls the police. What do the police do? One party has a contract that ended. The other party, whether if be little old lady or biker gang members has a contract evidencing the right to occupy on that date. The police say it is a civil matter. Will they share the house or will the lowlife leave decide he should leave?
Since he will be able to find a scumbag attorney, lowlife will sue. But what are the damages? He got the benefit of the bargain for the time he rented the house. Owner had rented it to another party and that new party took possession per the contract, believing the house to be vacant and believing they had the right to possession under the contract.
Then, how do you get THEM to leave??????????????........................
It’s a condo - there lots of other people in the building.
If I had a condo in a beachfront community or skiing area, where week to week rentals are the norm, AirBnB is just a slight tweak on the usual way of doing business.
This is going on all over Southern California, evidently. There was a couple in the apt complex where my daughter lives, where the rents are about $3,000/ month, that did this. They used a false identity to get past the credit check, moved in the first day, before the deposit check bounced and never paid one cent. The people had done the same thing at their previous location. Management were able to get them out this time by getting them arrested for the. bad checks.
take him to some other location, drop him off, and then return to your place and change the locks?
And deny it ever happened.
Or something along those lines...
So do you realize how much it would cost to change all
the locks in the White House?
Padlock the entry doors. They can not get in (or if they, are inside tell them you are going to padlock inthem except for one exit door. Keep their possessions until they pay what is owed the owner.. Of course Ask anyone from New York knows how to effectively control the situation. Block the garage doors too if there is a garage. Once I sat in the blocking position of the garage doors in order to serve a court order. It works.
Otherwise they will slip out in the middle of the night
People that have rental
Like don’t own anything in state of Californcation. Many problems there and this is rather a small one.
And there you go.
“Swat” the squat!
I’m already here...................
But she has had trouble, many times, with ‘guests’ trashing the condos. There is a $1000 damage deposit, but it must be really bad to enable her to keep it.
The ‘normal’ stuff is food left in the refrigerator, trash all over the place, stuff like that.
But on occasion there are broken dishes, stolen appliances, radio alarmclock and TV or they are damaged. Bed linens soiled beyond use (children pee/crap on bed), animal crap on carpets, toilets stopped up with whatever. Bed frames broken, furniture torn or ripped upholstery, etc. Some people live like animals while on vacation. One of the worst was just a couple of weeks ago, a family from California. The place was a complete mess, AND they would not get out at the appointed time. The next renters had to wait in the parking lot while my daughter had to clean all that mess up before they could go in. I think the owner decided to keep the DD..................
There is a lot of risk involved in this type of business.
Are the tenants Obamas newest arrivals?
Good luck getting rid of them.