Skip to comments.US: No Link to Russian Gov't in Plane Downing
Posted on 07/22/2014 2:32:53 PM PDT by kristinn
Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for "creating the conditions" that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, but they offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement.
The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.
The officials briefed reporters Tuesday under ground rules that their names not be used in discussing intelligence related to last week's air disaster, which killed 298 people.
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Well, I’m satisfied. /s
Believable? Or just the Bamster sucking up to Putin? Showing his flexibility.
Pretty sure it was the surface to air missile fairy that shot the plane down. The Russians had nothing to do with it.
And you can trust Bammy on this one. He’s the authority on fairies.
...and it was not related to terrorism in any way.
This administration and its sycophantt press lost all credibility with me years ago.
I’m surprised they’re not blaming it on an offensive You Tube video.
It’s obvious that Putin didn’t push the button but his people did and it was an accident.. why can’t they just admit it and move on?
What is the world supposed to believe, the guy that ordered a polonium enema on his opposition or their lying eyes. Yea, everyone has one of these launchers, just ask moose and squirrel.
Have we examined the launcher? Checked serial numbers on the missiles they have with it versus shipping manifests to see if any are missing? Found the wreckage of the detonated missile? Tracked it back to its manufacturing plant?
This is like saying that I have no direct evidence that O.J. Simpson killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman because I didn't do any of the investigation.
Is it true that AP stands for all propaganda?
They have something on Obama and he is trying to save face.
The point is, why report this and then back off unless you are stupid?
Oh, I answered my own question.
And if there was, we’d cover it up because we’re currently being led by cowards.
AP has chosen a quite misleading title. If someone just reads the title and skips the article then they’ll get a totally different idea from what the text actually says.
Well, if our government says so, I believe it.
Not sure I agree, body of article seems to track pretty well with headline.
...offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement.
...the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.
But the officials said they did not know who fired the missile or whether any Russian operatives were present at the missile launch.
In terms of who fired the missile, "we don't know a name, we don't know a rank and we're not even 100 percent sure of a nationality,"
The officials said the most likely explanation for why the plane was shot down is that the rebels made a mistake.
Some outlets led with that, others have taken a different approach. The problem is the Obama administration messed up with this briefing, giving Putin a PR boost, such that Ben Rhodes is now out doing damage control.
One thing is for damn sure, this isn’t going to help pressure Europe to heed Obama’s call to raise sanctions on Putin. But, of course, that’s how the cretin-in-chief wanted it all along.
Some get confused. Nobody is saying that the rebels didn’t do it. They are saying they can find no link that Russia was behind it.
I guess Russian rebels, with Russian equipment, answering to Moscow is “not a link”??
BS. 0bama is covering for Putin on this one.
Gee wonder if Obama will learn about this on the news...........since he almost down right accused Russia of being involved
USA created the conditions going on in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Israel, Gaza, Egypt and Libya. So what does the UN/World do about that? It’s a wonder the world doesn’t impose sanctions on the US
Might take an Obama speech to clear this one up,(groan).
“Let me be clear...”
“Created the conditions...”
“Choices to make...”
There will be costs...”
Obama takes 4 positions on every issue. He is a 100 % political animal.
There is no daylight between Mr. Rhode’s comments and those of the intelligence officials. /sarc
> said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for “creating the conditions” that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17... noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.
If the Zero-in-Chief didn’t get anything from the mass-murderer Putin for that whopping lie, impeachment should be the least of his worries.
Well, that isn’t going to make a bunch of people happy (Especially at CNN).
The Russians made another request today for the US Launch Satelite info, the spy satellite tapes of the time, and the Radar tapes that Kiev has impounded.
The conflicting info is fueling all kinds of theories.
When the Korean airliner was shot down by the Soviets, the USA released intelligence information to prove it.
But that divulged sources and methods.
And they were able to figure out we got the information from Japan, changed codes, etc... It was estimated that the release dropped our future intelligence gathering by 2/3
So learning from history there is reason to be careful about exactly what is released
Well, that must be that then. Thank you anonymous senior U.S. intelligence officials!
Strangely enough, there is no mention of the air traffic control records that could share some light on to who was responsible........
Perhaps some "low level employees" who had just seen a hurtful video?
Ordinarily I would agree to some extent...but this administration does everything with the idea of protecting Obama...which includes information ...and I’m not convinced his hand is free from responsibility.
Would be best to find out also why the plane “disappeared” off radar.....with better answers then what’s been said to date.
So we have a strong hand, we are not bluffing, but we are gonna have to fold.
“I guess Russian rebels, with Russian equipment, answering to Moscow is not a link??”
Pro-Russian rebels, with Captured UKRAINIAN equipment, likely did it.
Remember, it was just a few days ago that Kiev was denying that the rebels had captured a Buk, despite all of the video and photo evidence on Twitter and Youtube.
The video of the transporter “going across the border” is most likely fake, as well, according to the Russians. When the “Convenient” crop of the photo taken from a youtube vid is taken out, it shows a billboard for a car dealer. In a city Kiev has had undisputed control of since May 11th.
Lots of folks have an agenda on this, and it is blocking any real attempt to learn the truth.
Presumably he got Putin to take only south-eastern Ukraine to buffer/protect Crimea. That's a tidy little deal.
“Strangely enough, there is no mention of the air traffic control records that could share some light on to who was responsible........ “
Those were “Seized/impounded” by Kiev shortly after the accident. They could tell a lot.
‘Yesterday’ Russia sent Obama and, ‘ALL’ nation leaders, their Official Assessment from the evidence they had....with that questions they wanted answers to...and there were definately ones needing answers.
It was posted on youtube in full...( a half hour long)...so I listened to the entire presentation given by a top Officer..... Now there are only segments here and there on youtube that I could find...and these certainly didn’t tell the whole picture which was presented.
So today Obama goes hush and state dept spokesman stumbles answering reporters question....
This is going pretty much now as I suspected it will...regardless of who is to blame it won’t be Russia, Ukraine or any party that would be liable ..who has revenues.
Further Putin has said in the past he has information about Obama that could do him harm...he may have pulled that card and Obama sat down.
Led by a Russian national from some reports, in constant contact with Moscow and likely funded and supplied by Moscow
High stakes poker going on now between Russia and US.....this is going to die on the vine I think.
The fact is that if Putin hadn’t been stirring up sh*t there then the plane wouldn’t have been shot down.
He made a rare visit to Camp David this weekend. I wonder who was there and I wonder if they were handling a situation with some info not in their favor?
This comes out today. Very odd.
Shame this administration is so corrupt and rotten to the core.
I have always hoped a day would come when they get caught with their pants down. So far, they get away with their treachery.
It is going down the rabbit hole because there is a whole lot of responsibility to go around.