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Policing America
Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2014 | John Stossel

Posted on 07/23/2014 4:20:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

I want the police to be better armed than the bad guys, but what exactly does that mean today?

Apparently it means the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security equip even the tiniest rural police departments with massive military vehicles, body armor and grenade launchers. The equipment is surplus from the long wars we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.

To a hammer, everything resembles a nail. SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics) teams were once used only in emergencies such as riots or robberies where hostages were taken. But today there are more than 50,000 "no-knock raids" a year.

It's not because crime got worse. There is less crime today. Crime peaked around 1990 and is now at a 40-year low. But as politicians keep passing new criminal laws, police find new reasons to deploy their heavy equipment.

Washington Post reporter Radley Balko points out that they've used SWAT teams to raid such threatening haunts as truck stops with video poker machines, unlicensed barber shops and a frat house where underage drinking was reported.

In New York City, these men in black raided standup comedian Joe Lipari's apartment.

"I had bad customer service at the Apple Store," Lipari told me in an interview for my upcoming TV special "Policing America." "So I bitched about it on Facebook. I thought I was funny. I quoted 'Fight Club,'" the 1999 movie about bored yuppies who attack parts of consumer culture they hate.

"People (on Facebook) were immediately responding that it was obviously from 'Fight Club,'" says Lipari. "It was a good time, until 90 minutes later, a SWAT team knocked on my door. Everyone's got their guns drawn."

It took only that long for authorities to deem Lipari a threat and authorize a raid by a dozen armed men. Yet, says Lipari, "if they took 90 seconds to Google me, they would have seen I'm teaching a yoga class in an hour, that I had a comedy show."

Lipari has no police record. If he is a threat, so are you.

SWAT raids are dangerous, and things often go wrong. People may shoot at the police if they mistake the cops for ordinary criminals and pick up guns to defend their homes against invasion. Sometimes cops kill the frightened homeowner who raises a gun.

Because America has so many confusing laws, and also because cops sometimes make mistakes, it's harder to assume -- as conservatives often do -- that as long as you behave yourself, you have nothing to fear. The raids should also trouble libertarians who sometimes believe that government can mostly be trusted when it sticks to "legitimate" functions like running police, courts and the military.

Government always grows, and government is force. Force is always dangerous.

It's healthy for conservatives, libertarians and liberals alike to worry about the militarization of police. Conservatives worry about a repeat of incidents like the raids on religious radicals at Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas. Liberals condemn police brutality like the recent asphyxiation death of a suspect at the hands of police in New York.

This is a rare issue where I agree with left-wing TV host Bill Maher. On his TV show last week, Maher ranted about no-knock raids "breaking up poker games, arresting low-level pot dealers."

Maher's right to point out that most SWAT raids are now done to arrest nonviolent drug offenders. "It's a guy who sells weed," says Maher. "You don't need to shoot his dog and crash through his window."

But they do. If cops continue to take a warlike us-versus-them approach to policing the population, they just might bring the left and right together. Government is reckless, whether it is intruding into our lives with byzantine regulations that destroy a fledgling business or with a flash-bang grenade like the one that critically wounded a child in a recent SWAT raid in Janesville, Georgia.

Regardless of our political leanings, we should be wary of big government in all its forms.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: billmaher; donutwatch; jbt; police; swatteam; wod

1 posted on 07/23/2014 4:20:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

By the way, the “bad guys” are now defined as hard working, tax paying, law abiding citizens.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 4:23:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: albie

You can say that again


3 posted on 07/23/2014 4:28:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

No-Knock raids were premiered as part of the Drug War. Had to be no-knock so the suspects didn’t flush the evidence. Of course, everybody was all for them back then. And so here we are.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 4:33:37 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Kaslin
I liked Stossels's article witht he exception of:

it's harder to assume -- as conservatives often do -- that as long as you behave yourself, you have nothing to fear. The raids should also trouble libertarians who sometimes believe that government can mostly be trusted when it sticks to "legitimate" functions like running police, courts and the military.

Conservatives worry about a repeat of incidents like the raids on religious radicals at Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas. Liberals condemn police brutality like the recent asphyxiation death of a suspect at the hands of police in New York.

I would think these things would be of concern to everyone no matter their leanings, whether conservative, libertarian, or liberal.

5 posted on 07/23/2014 4:38:41 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: Wolfie

No-Knock raids were premiered as part of the Drug War.

...ah yes...the Drug War...such a success story, brought to us by our all-knowing leaders, who know so much better than we...


6 posted on 07/23/2014 4:42:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence.
It is force.
And force, like fire, is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
George Washington

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7 posted on 07/23/2014 4:55:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kaslin
To a hammer, everything resembles a nail.

Well said, Stossel.

8 posted on 07/23/2014 4:56:03 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Kaslin

Lots of psychology going on here. Conditioned responses, etc.

Arm yourself if your not.

Buy more guns and ammo in any case.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 5:35:16 AM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: albie

.....Who are also are very much ARMED.


10 posted on 07/23/2014 5:52:09 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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JBT ping.
11 posted on 07/23/2014 6:51:52 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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12 posted on 07/23/2014 7:01:14 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Kaslin

our government is the legal mafia. it started with the 13 colonies, or as I like to call them, the 13 original east coast crime families. all other states began as territories. they all wanted to join the legal mafia but first had to prove they were “good earners”. once this was done, they became “made” states. this allowed all fifty crime families to send their reps to Washington D.C. for the big “sitdown” sometimes called a congressional session. at the sitdown the crime families decided how to split the money from their rackets. like the income tax racket, cigarette tax racket, gas tax racket, etc. the legal mafia also has a “commission”, frequently refered to as the us supreme court. their job is to mediate disputes between the rival crime families. if your still not convinced the government is not the legal mafia. then just remember this. you can get in the mafia, but you can never get out. if you try to leave, they will kill you. I think the civil war proves my point.


13 posted on 07/23/2014 7:57:35 AM PDT by sixthmarine
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To: null and void

How those two newspaper delivery ladies survived that barrage of bullets is amazing.


14 posted on 07/23/2014 7:59:35 AM PDT by FBD
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To: Kaslin
This is a stupid, weak and inexcusably enabling article that reads like the defense of a wife beater by a codependent.

"...it's harder to assume -- as conservatives often do -- that as long as you behave yourself, you have nothing to fear."

Who the hell in the conservative world has assumed this since Ruby Ridge and Waco?

"Conservatives worry about a repeat of incidents like the raids on religious radicals at Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas."

Worry is not what Americans have been doing.

Planning IS what Americans have been doing since Waco and Ruby Ridge. Hint to Mr. Stossell: I don't care whether they are "religious radicals" or not, they are still Americans and you don't burn, gas, crush, and shoot Americans to death without trial in this country and claim that there's any legitimacy to it - or expect forbearance on the part of the citizenry that remembers the concepts of "consent" and "duty" where governance is concerned.

"If cops continue to take a warlike us-versus-them approach to policing the population, they just might bring the left and right together."

My estimation of the rule of Constitutional law in the United States bottomed out at about the same time Vicky Weaver's cranial contents hit the ground next to her infant. And I bulldozed my expectations of future legitimacy right alongside the tractors at Waco removing the evidence.

I understand that John Stossell wants to preserve his image of reasonability and centrist calm along with politically correct line-towing when he uses language like "may" and "concern" and mitigates with "religious extremist".

Moderation is no virtue here. Pick a side, Mr. Stossell.

A million Americans already have.


15 posted on 07/23/2014 9:48:35 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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16 posted on 07/23/2014 2:50:17 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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