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IRS: Uninsured face fine of nearly $2,500
The Hill ^

Posted on 07/24/2014 6:10:35 PM PDT by TigerClaws

The Internal Revenue Service said Thursday individuals who fail to get health insurance this year will be fined a maximum of $2,448 and families with five or more members can be fined up to $12,240.

Under the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate, people are either required to obtain health insurance or risk a tax penalty from the IRS

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: irs; obamacare

1 posted on 07/24/2014 6:10:35 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Taxation without representation.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 6:11:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: TigerClaws

Don’t worry, just tell them that your hard disk drive crashed and you will get around to it eventually.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 6:11:47 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Stupid has consequences ... in healthcare it can be a fatal consequence!)
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To: TigerClaws

They’ll postpone it. That was their intent when they created the law, to be able to change it at will.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 6:12:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: TigerClaws

Squeezing money out of the poor and desperate. It’s a sound strategy — the poor and desperate will go running to the polls to vote for Democrats so that they can get more “free stuff”.

One of these days they will realize why they are so poor and desperate — but so far that day has not come.


5 posted on 07/24/2014 6:12:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: TigerClaws

good luck with that


6 posted on 07/24/2014 6:13:57 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The law states that the only way the IRS can collect fines is to seize income tax refunds. If you play your cards right and end up not having a refund or owing a small amount, there is nothing the IRS can do.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 6:19:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: TigerClaws

What happens if you can’t afford it? I’d rather have a cookie.


8 posted on 07/24/2014 6:19:55 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: TigerClaws

Take it out of their EBT accounts. We are at war with obesity anyhoo.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 6:20:47 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: TigerClaws
individuals who fail to get health insurance this year will be fined

isn't this the part of the ACA that Judge Roberts called a tax?

10 posted on 07/24/2014 6:21:37 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: TigerClaws

This should wake up many people.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 6:22:57 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

” If you play your cards right and end up not having a refund or owing a small amount, there is nothing the IRS can do.”

Uh,,,,, I wouldn’t count on that! They’ll find a way to fine you, and the late penalties are huge!


12 posted on 07/24/2014 6:23:05 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Olog-hai

“Taxation without representation.”

Not according to Chief Justice Roberts.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 6:23:49 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: TigerClaws

meanwhile illegal aliens get $250-1000 a day spent on them


14 posted on 07/24/2014 6:26:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TigerClaws

Suppose nobody pays it?


15 posted on 07/24/2014 6:28:18 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TigerClaws

You can’t squeeze blood out of an unemployed rock.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 6:31:20 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Olog-hai

Nailed it!


17 posted on 07/24/2014 6:32:19 PM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: TigerClaws

Yeh good luck with that. The House is taking the enforcement away from the IRS. All they can do is take it out of your tax refund. If you don’t have a refund they are screwed.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 6:34:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: drypowder

Since Roberts decided it was a tax, will we be able to deduct the cost of insurance on our tax returns?


19 posted on 07/24/2014 6:38:07 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Apparently they have the ability to change the law at their whim.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 6:41:19 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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21 posted on 07/24/2014 6:46:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Soul of the South

Yes, we all heard that. The chief autocratic kritocrat that all the GOP-e was trying to convince us was “conservative-leaning”. The same guy who would not insist on Obama retaking the oath of office in public, interestingly enough.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 6:46:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: TigerClaws

Just another Obama tax on the Middle Class, nothing more nor less.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 6:50:41 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Olog-hai

Everyone refuse to pay the fine and your taxes and put the IRS out of a job...I’ve about had enough of this administration’s $hit. It’s as though they are trying to pick at The American People trying every hour of the day to provoke them to finally snap so they can declare martial law. BTW there have been reports by credible sources of signs with Martial Law and This Area Declared Under Martial Law from credible sources lately that are not rumors. A trooper in Colorado pulled a truck with Mexican plates over and saw a very large number of signs going to a warehouse in Chicago and another batch numbering in the thousands was observed in a truck in Wisconsin. Tell me something isn’t up.


24 posted on 07/24/2014 6:52:39 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TigerClaws

Bill me. I have to much debt already.


25 posted on 07/24/2014 6:55:19 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: beethovenfan
Then eventually they'll make every American a felon and send SWAT to clear your house of firearms.
Why do you think all Fed DEPTs now have ammo and training? It's there just waiting to
hit the desk and be signed.
26 posted on 07/24/2014 6:57:18 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: TigerClaws

I had to purchase temporary insurance since my employer does not offer a group health plan and my enrollment did not fall within an open enrollment period.

My insurance broker told me that the policies available as temporary care do not meet Obamacare’s minimum qualifications and I am going to be ‘taxed’ anyway even though I have health insurance.

Lucky me.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 6:57:28 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: TigerClaws

close your bank accounts, increase dependents to lower withheld amounts,and don’t pay it.

second way is if you’re a christian, to drop insurance altogether and go into one of three health-sharing ministries recognized by obamacare and be covered that way.


28 posted on 07/24/2014 6:58:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

“five or more members can be fined up to $12,240.”

Wait till this hits them right where they live. I’m going to laugh my ass off.


29 posted on 07/24/2014 6:59:12 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: jsanders2001
Obama is trying to push the American people hard enough to cause a reaction.
He's doing a damn good job but I don't think it's going to turn out like he's planning.
30 posted on 07/24/2014 6:59:18 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: TigerClaws
> families with five or more members can be fined up to $12,240.

And liberals care about the poor and the working class. Sure.
31 posted on 07/24/2014 7:05:31 PM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: TigerClaws

Huh? I thought it was a ‘fine’ first off. Then of course I learned it was a ‘tax’.

Thought it was $95.00 the first year and went up from there each year.

Screw ‘em. I will NEVER EVER EVER be forced to buy barrycare and the $2500.00 tax thing? Pfft - yea sure


32 posted on 07/24/2014 7:10:02 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: TigerClaws

Obama doesn’t care about the average American.

Marxists never do!


33 posted on 07/24/2014 7:11:44 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BinaryBoy

If the premiums for a silver plan (memory getting a little hazy) would be more than about 8.5% of gross adjusted income, the penalty/fee is waived.


34 posted on 07/24/2014 7:13:20 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Secret Agent Man
go into one of three health-sharing ministries recognized by obamacare and be covered that way

Where do I find out more?

35 posted on 07/24/2014 7:18:13 PM PDT by bankwalker (If you ain't scared, then you ain't payin' attention!)
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To: jsanders2001

Interesting. I hope it waits 8 months so I can escape Mexifornia. The people here will just cave. Where I’m going, they’ll fight back.


36 posted on 07/24/2014 7:24:09 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Obama doesn’t care about the average American.

No he doesn’t, and neither do liberal Democrat hypocrites or the GOPe.


37 posted on 07/24/2014 7:24:29 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: TigerClaws

We still have an IRS....why?


38 posted on 07/24/2014 7:41:23 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: TigerClaws

Meanwhile, Boehner says Obamacare is “the law of the land” rather than fight this POS legislation 24/7. The GOP is dead. They can’t even wage a logical, factual, effective debate on policy when the opponent is dead.

Does anyone know where Boehner stands on Obamacare?


39 posted on 07/24/2014 7:41:25 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TigerClaws

The gift that keeps on giving


40 posted on 07/24/2014 7:45:45 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: bankwalker

One of them is Medishare. I looked on their website and there are no doctors or hospitals anywhere near me that participate with them.


41 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:07 PM PDT by Wage Slave
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To: TigerClaws
I've been saying all along Obamacare is unconstitutional.

It goes beyond that, it is an assault on the Declaration of Independence which is our whole reason for existing.

It is a "TAX ON LIFE!!"

You CANNOT reconcile this with "certain unalienable rights, and among them being Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness".

But NOBODY gets it! NOBODY!
42 posted on 07/24/2014 8:03:04 PM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Watch the seize Social Security, Medicare, Pensions, IRAs, 401Ks, paychecks, liens on assets etc. They’ll find a way to get “their money”. It’s been bountied about in Congress for several years. SHTF when that crap happens.


43 posted on 07/24/2014 8:33:17 PM PDT by carriage_hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: TigerClaws
Just apply for a Hardship Exemption

New Hardship Exemption Under Affordable Care Act

December 20, 2013

"In a last-minute policy change, the Obama administration waived the so-called individual mandate under the Affordable Care Act for people whose individual health insurance policy is being canceled.

The act requires most Americans to have qualified health insurance starting in 2014 or pay a tax penalty, unless they meet one of myriad exemptions. One is if qualifying coverage would cost more than 8 percent of household income (the affordability exemption). Another is they can prove a hardship such as homelessness, bankruptcy, domestic violence, large medical debts, utility shutoff notice or death in the family.

Under new guidance issued late Thursday, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) said that having an individual insurance policy canceled now qualifies for the hardship exemption.

People who qualify for the cancellation hardship exemption have two options:

-- Don't buy coverage and don't pay a fine.

-- Buy a bare-bones catastrophic policy on an exchange.

These catastrophic policies do not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act, but people who buy them won't owe a fine. Before Thursday's rule change, to buy this policy a person had to be younger than 30 or meet the affordability exemption.

To qualify for the new policy-cancellation exemption, consumers must complete a hardship application, which will let them purchase a catastrophic plan or receive a penalty waiver, according to Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

(For the application, see http://1.usa.gov/19YrBnK.)


44 posted on 07/24/2014 9:42:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro (IRONY)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Gee, I wonder what will happen when all the Illegal Aliens only get half of their $5,000 Earned Income Tax Credit?

I would include all the Welfare Mothers, but they’re already on Food Stamps, Section 8 and Medicaid. The extra $5,000 EITC is just walking around money anyway.

Meanwhile, the working people will get screwed. What a great country Obama has created. We are so fortunate. /s


45 posted on 07/24/2014 10:14:16 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Things can always be worse and the Democrat Party is here to prove it.)
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To: bankwalker

http://samaritanministries.org/

I’ve been a member for 2 years, and I had a major medical need shared a few months ago (tumor and 1/3 of my right lung removed). I was able to pay every penny thanks to my brothers and sisters in Christ; and in addition to the financial burden being lifted, I also received hundreds of notes and cards and prayers and Bible verses that were a great comfort to me and my family. In the spirit of full disclosure, I began working for this company in March of this year...so, yes, I’m biased! Here’s a great article in Philanthropy Magazine:

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/philanthropic_freedom/sharing_health1


46 posted on 07/25/2014 7:08:08 AM PDT by Weight of Glory
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To: TigerClaws

Hey, GREAT!

Families not on welfare that have 3 or more kids obviously can afford a THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE.

Lefties - you’re satanic. Have a nice eternity.


47 posted on 07/25/2014 7:09:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Does anyone know where Boehner stands on Obamacare?

This should give you a general idea of where Boner stands...


48 posted on 07/25/2014 7:16:19 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Weight of Glory
http://samaritanministries.org/

I’ve been a member for 2 years, and I had a major medical need shared a few months ago (tumor and 1/3 of my right lung removed). I was able to pay every penny thanks to my brothers and sisters in Christ; and in addition to the financial burden being lifted, I also received hundreds of notes and cards and prayers and Bible verses that were a great comfort to me and my family. In the spirit of full disclosure, I began working for this company in March of this year...so, yes, I’m biased! Here’s a great article in Philanthropy Magazine:

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/philanthropic_freedom/sharing_health1

Thank you for the info. We will be using it for sure.

49 posted on 07/25/2014 8:20:13 AM PDT by bankwalker (If you ain't scared, then you ain't payin' attention!)
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To: TigerClaws

Expect the administration to interpret the law so that the tax penalty will be rescinded if they sign up.

Some people might call this extortion or coercion by the government. Obama will call this an executive order to implement the law at his discretion.


50 posted on 07/25/2014 8:37:11 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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