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Lawmaker to Push Bill Requiring Dinesh D'Souza's 'America' Be Shown in Schools
Hhollywood Reporter ^ | 7-25-14 | Paul Bond

Posted on 07/25/2014 9:57:56 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Florida GOP state senator Alan Hays said he’ll propose a bill mandating that students in the 1,700 Florida public high schools and middle schools are to be shown the film unless their parents object.

A Florida state senator plans to introduce a bill that would make Dinesh D'Souza's docudrama, America, required viewing for most teenagers in the state, The Hollywood Reporter learned on Friday.

Republican Alan Hays said he’ll introduce in November his one-page bill that simply states that students in the 1,700 Florida public high schools and middle schools are to be shown the film unless their parents object.

The plan is sure to draw fire from liberals not only because D’Souza is a prominent conservative but because he is also behind the movie, 2016: Obama’s America, which is a profoundly negative take on Democratic U.S. president Barack Obama.

America, the movie, espouses a conservative point of view toward telling history. D'Souza takes on leftist arguments that portray the U.S. in a negative light, and he specifically attacks Howard Zinn, author of the book A People’s History of the United States, often considered the most widely used history book in U.S. academia. The movie shows actors Matt Damon and Woody Harrelson praising the book.

Hays said the purpose of his proposal is to introduce more balance into Florida schools.

“I saw the movie and walked out of the theater and said, ‘Wow, our students need to see this.’ And it’s my plan to show it to my colleagues in the legislature, too, before they’re asked to vote on the bill,” Hays said.

Those who oppose the plan are also likely to point out that D’Souza could be headed to prison after he pleaded guilty to illegally promising to reimburse some people who donated to a friend’s Senate campaign. D’Souza faces up to two years for that transgression and he will be sentenced in September.

Nevertheless, the bill could pass, given that Republicans hold a substantial majority in Florida’s Senate and House of Representatives, and Gov. Rick Scott is also a Republican.

“I’ve looked at history books and talked to history teachers and the message the students are getting is very different from what is in the movie,” Hays said. “It’s dishonest and insulting. The students need to see the truth without political favoritism.”

To that end, Hays said he wouldn’t object if teachers paired America with a liberal film to show the political differences. Indeed, many schools already show Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth and some of Michael Moore’s left-leaning films, though it’s certainly more unusual to actually require the viewing of a particular movie, as Hays intends with his bill.

“The most dreaded disease in America today is political correctness. We need to inform our students of our whole history, and teach them how to think, not what to think,” Hays said. “Let them talk with their teachers, their peers and their parents, then draw their own conclusions. But they need both sides, and this movie shows a side they just aren’t seeing.”

Hays said his intent is to reach out to charitable groups that would supply schools with the necessary copies of the movie so as not to burden Florida taxpayers.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; dineshdsouza; education; florida; homeschool

1 posted on 07/25/2014 9:57:56 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Why not? Many had to watch Algores lying excrement bag.


2 posted on 07/25/2014 10:00:41 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Go for it. The lib teachers will go NUTS!


3 posted on 07/25/2014 10:03:45 AM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Not just should the movie be mandated viewing, but Dinesh D’Souza’s books should be mandated reading in schools and colleges.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 10:04:37 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Get “America” folded into Common Core standards. Then watch the liberals back away from Common Core. [:)]


5 posted on 07/25/2014 10:08:11 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Against.

Were already dealing with liberals and homosexuals pushing their propaganda on the kids. I dont care how truthful america may be. It sets a bad precedent for lawmakers to require school kids to see this stuff.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 10:14:18 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: the_Watchman

Lol! This guy better have his tax records in order...


7 posted on 07/25/2014 10:14:48 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Home school and keep your children away from all government influence.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 10:16:16 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: lowbridge

Save it, we’re terminally blinded to recognizing a slippery slope.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 10:20:58 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: afraidfortherepublic
👍

10 posted on 07/25/2014 10:21:22 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Viennacon

“Go for it. The lib teachers will go NUTS!”

That already being for the most part accomplished, the goal is to have them in derision.


11 posted on 07/25/2014 10:21:35 AM PDT by KStorm (Mere geographical location is what makes some people Americans.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Is it really out on dvd already? Where can I get a copy?


12 posted on 07/25/2014 10:22:55 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

State senator Alan Hayes lead the effort to send Florida delegates to the Assembly of States. The third meeting is this coming December, and will hopefully settle on parliamentary rules for a State convention to propose constitutional amendments.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 10:23:56 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This would be great idea.
But this documentary to the academic establishment would be like a cross to a vampire ... or to a liberal, for that matter.
14 posted on 07/25/2014 10:24:02 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

absolutely excellent


15 posted on 07/25/2014 10:24:13 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: lowbridge

States have a duty to instill love of country in their public schools.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 10:26:27 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: lowbridge

The liberals dictate almost all the books used in schools and have even banned the Bible. Every subject from History to Biology is controlled by the liberals and our children are taught that out Founding Fathers were racist and sexist slave owners and are then told about the so called Theory of Evolution and they are never taught the Truth of Creation.


17 posted on 07/25/2014 10:29:03 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They’ll show it allright. They’ll pause it every 5 minutes, and add their commentary about how it’s all lies and evil Republican propaganda.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 10:30:34 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Wolfie

This is a stupid election year stunt.
The left will then demand that students watch some lefty movie.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 10:30:58 AM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If we can have Heather Has Two Mommies in our public schools, then why not America?


20 posted on 07/25/2014 10:36:21 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This would be cool, but somehow I don’t see it happening.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 10:45:53 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: lowbridge

what a crap position that is. the schools are rife with liberal leadership so you just want to crawl up in a ball and suck your thumb instead of trying to balance the education our kids are getting??? My kids are 13 & 15 and it’s slavery and civil rights, every day all day. Nothing else.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 10:52:49 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: afraidfortherepublic

...and if the patents object, deport them to the nation of their choice free of charge.


23 posted on 07/25/2014 11:05:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: DoughtyOne

...and if the parents object, deport them to the nation of their choice free of charge.


24 posted on 07/25/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No. Politicians should NOT micromanage education. What’s next, the Satanist’s Bible? Because the MOMENT you go down that path, the other side is coming with you.

Ridiculous idea.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 11:12:39 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: afraidfortherepublic
COOL!

It would be very novel to have the truth promoted instead of vile, mentally diseased, amoral, atheistic garbage mandated in the schools!

26 posted on 07/25/2014 11:31:56 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Wolfie

Judging by some of the responses I got, I can see that. :-)


27 posted on 07/25/2014 1:05:21 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: spacejunkie2001

You want to balance the education, there are other ways to do it. Like showing America to your kids in your own home. Using legislation to force schools to show things like this can and will backfire on you once the liberals get a hold of power.


28 posted on 07/25/2014 1:09:48 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: RIghtwardHo

Hey, look! It’s leftwardho. Always chiming in on the wrong side of the equation.

This needs to be part of the school curriculum to offset the radical leftist garbage that YOU were clearly brought up in.

Fraudster.


29 posted on 07/25/2014 1:14:03 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
Hey, look! It’s leftwardho. Always chiming in on the wrong side of the equation.

So, objecting to politicians seeking to REQUIRE schools to show a particular movie is a "leftist" position now?

30 posted on 07/25/2014 1:54:39 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Wolfie
This isn't even a "slippery slope" situation. The problem with this proposal is not that it may lead to bad things happening (though it may - as others have said, once you open this door, wait until you see what the left will require in schools). The problem with this proposal is that the proposal itself is a bad thing. Just look at the proponent's quote:

“I saw the movie and walked out of the theater and said, ‘Wow, our students need to see this.’

Excuse me, but who the h*ll is this guy to decide what "our students need to see"?

31 posted on 07/25/2014 1:58:09 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: lowbridge; LS
Against.

Were already dealing with liberals and homosexuals pushing their propaganda on the kids. I dont care how truthful america may be. It sets a bad precedent for lawmakers to require school kids to see this stuff.

D'Souza takes on leftist arguments that portray the U.S. in a negative light, and he specifically attacks Howard Zinn, author of the book A People’s History of the United States, often considered the most widely used history book in U.S. academia. The movie shows actors Matt Damon and Woody Harrelson praising the book.
Showing our youth “America” is the least we can do to balance Zinn’s propaganda. Let alone “Inconvenient Truth.”

I stand in favor. (pinging Larry Schweikart, co-author of A Patriot’s History of the United States, a book specifically written in rebuttal of Zinn.


32 posted on 07/25/2014 2:12:36 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
File under "Yet Another Reason Why the 17th Amendment Might Not Necessarily Have Been A Terrible Thing."

The movie may or may not be something young people should see, but state legislators ordering them to see it (or mandating that the movie be shown in every school) is not a good idea.

33 posted on 07/25/2014 2:13:53 PM PDT by x
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sure beat Bambi a film about Forrest preservation.
or The animated Robin hood a film about wealth redistribution.
Or the “The Grapes of Wrath” a film and/or book about FDR’s Great Depression being commingled with the dust-bowl to permute FDR’s “New Deal” welfare.

All of theses we were forced to watch or read in school, what Conservative free market ideas do we get?


34 posted on 07/25/2014 2:17:01 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Schools are like the press, their beurcacy and teachers are dominated by liberals.

If left to their own devices they will do very much as they have been doing with ever more ridicules sums of our money, and that isn’t generally so much educating our kids as trying to indoctrinate them to liberal thinking.

There is a good reason many if not most melinilals don’t understand capitalism(The economic freedom their fathers and forefathers fought and died for), or most anything else about our history, the simple text of our Constitution, or even Geography. Our public schools simply aren’t teaching it anymore.

No amount of money is going to solve the rot which is inherit in the ideological biases of its leaders. If we hope to be a free people and are to be expected to pay for schools we must insist upon results with tests.

The reality is we have to force schools to not only teach it but teach it successfully by testing for this essencal knowledge of citizenship in a free country.


35 posted on 07/25/2014 2:24:48 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

he’s a lefty from the get go; on every subject.


36 posted on 07/25/2014 2:27:45 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

“Showing our youth “America” is the least we can do to balance Zinn’s propaganda. Let alone “Inconvenient Truth.””

I agree. Just find a way to show it to the “yutes” without resorting to ramming it down their throats via legislation.


37 posted on 07/25/2014 3:00:16 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
“Showing our youth “America” is the least we can do to balance Zinn’s propaganda. Let alone “Inconvenient Truth.””
I agree. Just find a way to show it to the “yutes” without resorting to ramming it down their throats via legislation.
. . . as opposed to ramming Zinn down their throats without legislation?

It is the nature of the government school. At least if the legislature explicitly selects something (and, be it noted, offers an opt-out provision) the legislators face the voters in the next election. The people foisting Zinn on our grandchildren are not politically accountable - and you seem to like that.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 5:39:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
I'm against. Patriot's History of the US has found its way into 30 MAJOR colleges and universities and hundreds of high schools without a law. The worst thing you can do is have gubment, regardless of the position, trying to dictate education.

Truth will win out. The Soviets controlled education for 40 years and all they got for it was a democratic revolt. We can break through without gubment rules, cause once the gubment is involved, it can dictate to publishers what can, and cannot, be in a film or book.

39 posted on 07/26/2014 5:52:10 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Wolfie
Save it, we’re terminally blinded to recognizing a slippery slope.
This isn't even a "slippery slope" situation. The problem with this proposal is not that it may lead to bad things happening (though it may - as others have said, once you open this door, wait until you see what the left will require in schools). The problem with this proposal is that the proposal itself is a bad thing. Just look at the proponent's quote:
“I saw the movie and walked out of the theater and said, ‘Wow, our students need to see this.’
Excuse me, but who the h*ll is this guy to decide what "our students need to see"?

He is an elected official in the State of Florida - who are you?

I don’t mean the question to you personally, but to those who have been packing “social studies” with propaganda for years, while you presume to reject the idea that the people, through their elected representatives, should have anything to say about that. This state senator will face the voters, and even if his proposal isn’t enacted into law he will answer questions about it.

But Wolfie is right about the existence of a slippery slope - he just doesn’t recognize that it isn’t in front of him and down, it is behind him and up.

40 posted on 07/26/2014 6:26:30 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
"The people foisting Zinn on our grandchildren are not politically accountable - and you seem to like that

No, i dont seem to like that. This verbal tactic I would expect of a liberal, not from you.

41 posted on 07/26/2014 9:20:56 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: LS
The worst thing you can do is have gubment, regardless of the position, trying to dictate education.
That’s an excellent point in favor of homeschooling, but (IMHO) no point at all in opposition to a legislator trying to counter the indoctrination of our grandchildren with a particular slant of propaganda. Point out if you will that “America” - or Patriot’s History for that matter - can also be called propaganda, but the point still stands that People’s History is become a propaganda Establishment within the government schools, and it is legitimate for an elected legislator to push back within those same government schools. He will face the voters afterward; the education bureaucracy will not.

Let us not confuse government with democracy - just because we cling to the hope of a democratic republic should not blind us to the fact that although the “public school” is a government school, and the government is nominally democratic, the school inevitably is operated bureaucratically, and operates at least partly for its own interests rather than exclusively for the interest of the public in having all children grow into discerning adults.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 9:29:09 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: lowbridge
No, i dont seem to like that. This verbal tactic I would expect of a liberal, not from you.
No, you don’t actually seem to like that - you just are faced with the fact that the government is running the schools, the bureaucracy which the government runs the schools is politically unaccountable for subjecting our grandchildren to one-sided, self-serving political advocacy, and the only alternative - political rather than bureaucratic determination of whether the other side of the issue will have a hearing - is being considered. The slippery slope toward political advocacy exists, all right - but we are already at the bottom of it.

You can no more trust educrats to be objective than you can trust journalists to be objective.

The fantasy with which Obama seduced them - “Hope and Change” - is the fantasy that improvement is easy. The reality is that the people who came before you weren’t all dummies, and they did their best - which means that just any old change is very unlikely to be an improvement. Thoughtful, judicious, small-scale change holds promise of finding some improvement. Wholesale change on the assumption that “things couldn’t be worse” is extremely dangerous.

43 posted on 07/26/2014 2:14:09 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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