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Israel must be permitted to crush Hamas
The Washington Post ^ | July 24, 2014 | Michael Oren

Posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, Secretary of State John Kerry and the foreign ministers of Great Britain and France all are rushing to achieve a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. Their motive — to end civilian suffering and restore stability to the area — is noble. The images of the wounded and dead resulting from the conflict are indeed agonizing. However, these senior statesmen can be most helpful now by doing nothing. To preserve the values they cherish and to send an unequivocal message to terrorist organizations and their state sponsors everywhere, Israel must be permitted to crush Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

This is the lesson of previous rounds of fighting between the Israeli Defense Forces and terrorist strongholds. In Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza in 2008 and again in 2012, Israel responded to rocket attacks on its cities with fierce counteroffensives. Fighting against a deeply dug-in enemy that both blended in with the local population and used it as a shield, Israel’s best efforts to avoid civilian casualties invariably proved limited. Incensed world opinion generated immense pressure on governments to convene the U.N. Security Council and empower human rights organizations to censure Israel and stop the carnage. These measures succeeded where the terrorists’ rockets failed. Israel was compelled to back down.

And the terrorists, though badly mauled, won....

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; gaza; hamas; intifada; israel; johnkerry; lurch; massachusetts
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One of the biggest failings of the entire concept of the United Nations is that it ignores the reality of war. Wars only end when there is a victor and a looser. The looser must accept his defeat, and slink off to be never heard from again.

A cease fire merely prolongs the agony and the deaths. A prime example is Korea. The cease fire is some 60 years long, and the war continues, now with nuclear weapons.

21 posted on 07/26/2014 3:51:01 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Israel must be permitted to crush Hamas

Obama and Kerry are deeply disappointed.

22 posted on 07/26/2014 4:24:50 AM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero plays a fiddle, while Obama plays Minnesota Fats)
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To: hoagy62
Khitan General: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! [Cheers] This is good. But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: The open steppe, a fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!
Khitan General: [Cheers]...That is good.
23 posted on 07/26/2014 4:44:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The POST allowed this to be published? Is this a flying pigs moment?


24 posted on 07/26/2014 4:46:03 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly, IMHO, Israel won’t be able to really crush Hamas. Oh, this time they will put a terrific and well-deserved hurt on that organization.

But, the population of Gaza, and indeed of all Palestine, is fertile soil for Islamic craziness, of which Hamas is a worse-than-usual example. I still remember the Palestinians celebrating in the streets on 9/11 and handing out candy to children. Remember the ululating lady?

These people, and indeed most Arabs, are centuries away from civilization and tolerance.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 5:29:52 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: hoagy62

and bury the remains with pig guts..

One can never be to safe..


26 posted on 07/26/2014 5:55:34 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many times have we gone through these cease fires and then seen the same clashes begin again after the Palestinians rearm. Only permanent solution I see is for Israel to occupy that area. They will be condemned by everyone but nothing else has worked.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 7:37:08 AM PDT by McGruff (We can't even secure our border never mind Ukraine's.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The actual meaning of the word “HAMAS” has an almost overwhelming evil sound to it even to the uninformed in the Hebrew language. Now, with the meaning understood as revealed by your research, HAMAS can be called exactly what it is; evil, violent, and an enemy of the entire world. Those who would try to take more or all of the land that God gave to His people would be of the same demonic cult called HAMAS. God will not be mocked. Israel is the land God gave to His chosen people. There is a day coming when He will judge the nations of the world on how they treated the Jewish nation. Let it be known that the day of His judgment may be sooner than you think. Much sooner!

Jesus was actually revealing the name of the terrorist group that would be in operation in Israel, which would prompt God to destroy them for their corruption. Remember, Jesus was speaking in Hebrew, not English, to his followers. Jesus knew He was revealing the name of the group who would oppose Israel, and bring in the time of Jacob’s trouble.

HAMAS is a terrorist group that spreads false witness against the Jews in Israel, as well as the Christians around the world. It uses the media well to promote negative propaganda to accomplish its goals.

Wickedness – the Hebrew word is rah, evil, hurtful, vicious

Corrupt – the Hebrew word is shachat, which literally means to slaughter or destroy, ruin, spoil, rotted. Here it says the flesh is ruined. It seems to be referring to a condition (due to corrupt seed?) in the physical body.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 8:28:55 AM PDT by PLD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

- http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/25/at-25-seconds-incredible-video-actually-captures-israeli-bomb-in-the-air-before-it-hits-its-target/

25 seconds after HAM-ASS in Gaza fired off an unguided rocket towardsIsrael

Kudos to the Jews in Israel

- Beery Hussein Obama #2 (he bowls a mean 37 out of a possible 300 points!!!!!!!!!!) would study it for a few years and go play golf


29 posted on 07/26/2014 8:48:12 AM PDT by devolve (-Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - pre-1899 Colt SAA frames needed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there’s an infestation, you call the exterminator.


30 posted on 07/26/2014 9:20:14 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: hoagy62

Don’t forget the pork fat.


31 posted on 07/26/2014 9:55:39 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Carthego delenda est

It’s Biblical and will continue right up to the end.


32 posted on 07/26/2014 10:22:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Because the world is run by a gang of grasping psychopaths?

Ahhhh.... there is nothing so refreshing as raw brutal truth.

33 posted on 07/26/2014 12:48:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Enchante
Trying to stamp out Hamas is like trying to get rid of cockroaches.

There will be collateral damage to non-cockroaches , and you'll have to spray again in a few years.

34 posted on 07/26/2014 12:53:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Crush Hamas out of existance, you'll be doing the world a favor

What fills the void? Other voids have been filled by ISIS and Boka Haran and deadly chaos in Libya. In Egypt it's a strong not democratic military that turned things around.

I really don't have any idea for the answer to my question. Millions of angry impoverished people surrounding Israel just doesn't seem like an answer. That's especially now with the danger of ISIS - inspired opposition taking hold.

35 posted on 07/26/2014 12:59:22 PM PDT by grania
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To: Enterprise

Uh, He had it covered in Samuel: dimocrat = suckling


36 posted on 07/26/2014 1:11:55 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Enchante

Egypt will never bother Israel again after losing its entire air force the last time it tried. It learned.

Jordan will never bother Israel again after nearly losing its entire armored corp. the last time the runt king got squirrelly. It learned.

Syria was one incident away from a final learning experience when the locals took it away from Asshad.

The Hamasses have nothing to lose but money. Gaza would go quiet by Monday morning if their money dried up. It is their backers who must learn. Qatar, the Soddies, and the Irans, who are their moneybag guys, still have a violent lesson to learn. I expect the Soddy royals to get their throats cut before long and the rest will follow. The ME is working its way back to pre-Ottoman configuration and it’s only being delayed by these tribal jerkopffs who use their money to keep the fight in their neighbors yards.


37 posted on 07/26/2014 1:29:38 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t think they need “permission” from anyone...

They should grind the bastards into the sands until there is no more threat from them. Kill all Hamas sends, until they stop sending them.

That’s the way you deal with psychopaths.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 3:36:27 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: F15Eagle

100 % correct! Hamas MUST be crushed, limited war does nothing except move the next battle a little into the future. If war is required, than make sure there will be such terror that hamas will never again think about attacking Israel.War is not a game to be played with. It is the last option, and includes the TOTAL destruction of the enemy. Limited war just guarantees another war in the near future.
Israel needs to hurt hamas so badly that it will be another 1000 years before they think about another war.
Jack


39 posted on 07/26/2014 4:00:47 PM PDT by btcusn
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To: faithhopecharity

What the Romans did to Carthage?


40 posted on 07/26/2014 7:49:38 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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