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NAZIS WITHDRAWING THEIR ENTIRE WEST WING AS AMERICANS CONTINUE TO GAIN IN NORMANDY (7/30/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 7/30/44 | E.C. Daniel, Hal Boyle, David Anderson, Lansing Warren, Rembert James, Robert Trumbull

Posted on 07/30/2014 4:14:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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THE NEWS OF THE WEEK IN REVIEW

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles and the occasional radio broadcast delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
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1 posted on 07/30/2014 4:14:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 07/30/2014 4:17:21 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The Nimitz Graybook

3 posted on 07/30/2014 4:18:06 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Major General H.W. Blakeley, USA, Ret., 32d Infantry Division in World War II

4 posted on 07/30/2014 4:18:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, Triumph and Tragedy

5 posted on 07/30/2014 4:19:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Coutances Passed (Daniel) – 2-3
Searching for Snipers in a French Town (photo) – 3
Fierce Tank Fight Won by Americans (Boyle) – 3
General Assails Critics of British – 4
War News Summarized – 4
Suburbs Shelled – 5-6
Top Ace Missing on Eve of Leave – 6
Bombers Again Hit Leuna Oil Plants (Anderson) – 7
Florence Battle in Final Stages – 7
New York’s Archbishop at the Italian Front (photo) – 8
B-29’s Fire Plants (Warren) – 9-10
Guam Invaders Win Orote Peninsula (James) – 10
Command Post Has Wild Guam Dawn (Trumbull) – 11
American Marines Hitting the Beach at Guam (photo) – 11
First Big Air Blow Rips at Halmahera (by Lindesay Parrott) – 12
Latest Casualties Reported by Army – 13
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the Fighting in Various War Zones – 14-16

The News of the Week in Review
In the East and West the Allies Drive On (maps) – 17-18
Closing In – 19-22
Quotations – 22
Fifteen News Questions – 23
New Bold Tactics Won Victory in Normandy (by Hanson W. Baldwin) – 24
The Three Zones of Japan’s Defensive System (map) – 25
‘Fortress Japan’ Has Three Defensive Zones (by Sidney Shalett) – 26
Soviet Speed and Power Overwhelms the Nazis (by W.H. Lawrence) – 27
“Will Return Later” (cartoon) – 28
Answers to Fifteen News Questions – 28

6 posted on 07/30/2014 4:20:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1944/jul44/30jul44.htm#

Germans counterattack US advance
Sunday, July 30, 1944 www.onwar.com

On the Western Front... Advancing elements of US 1st Army seize Granville and enter Avranches, capturing bridges over the See River. The left flank is counterattacked by German forces of the 2nd Parachute Corps at Percy and Villedieu. British forces mount successful attacks near Caumount.

In the Mariana Islands... On Tinian, the main town of Tinian is captured by American forces. The southern half of Guam has been secured by US troops.

In the Philippine Sea... The US heavy cruiser Indianapolis is sunk by a Japanese submarine.

In New Guinea... The US 6th Division (Sibert) lands unopposed on the islands of Amsterdam and Middleburg, off Cape Sansapor. Task Force 78 (Admiral Berkey) provides naval support.


7 posted on 07/30/2014 4:21:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/30.htm

July 30th, 1944 (SUNDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: The US Eighth Air Force in England flies two missions. In Mission 505, 237 P-47s and P-51 Mustangs fly sweeps of Evreux, St Quentin, Paris and Orleans, France claiming the destruction of 3 Luftwaffe”>Luftwaffe aircraft in the air and 9 on the ground; 1 P-51 is lost. In Mission 506, 1 B-17 is dispatched on a night leaflet mission but is recalled. Also, 31 B-24s fly CARPETBAGGER missions.

The first ambulance version of the Avro Anson XI (NK 870) makes its maiden flight. (22)

Submarine HMS Varne commissioned.

ENGLISH CHANNEL: U-621 attacked an unknown convoy in the English Channel with LUT torpedoes and claimed a ship of 9,000 tons sunk. In fact the Ascanius was damaged.

FRANCE: Granville and Avranches fall to US forces in France. German forces including II Parachute Corps make a strong counterattack. The British advance near Caumont, France.
The US Ninth Air Force dispatches 450+ A-20 Havocs and B-26s to bomb defenses in the Chaumont area in support of the US First Army; fighters fly escort, cover the assault area and armored columns, and carry out armed reconnaissance in the Orleans-Paris area; and 200+ C-47 Skytrains fly supply and evacuation missions to the Continent

EASTERN FRONT: The US Fifteenth Air Force in Italy sends 300+ bombers to attack targets in Hungary and YUGOSLAVIA: in Hungary, B-24s bomb Duna Airfield; B-17s bomb the aircraft factory at Budapest, and marshalling yards at Brod, Yugoslavia; P-38s and P-51s escort the missions.

ITALY: The first elements of the negro U.S. 92d Infantry Division reach Naples. They are a handpicked group from the 370th Regimental Combat Team. (Russell Folsom)

BALTIC SEA: U-250 (Type VIIC) is sunk on this day at 19.40 hours, in the Baltic Sea in the Gulf of Finland, at position 60.28N, 28.25E, by depth charges from Russian sub chaser MO-103. 46 dead, 6 survivors.

Earlier at 1242 hrs U-250 attacked the 56 ton Russian sub chaser MO 105 with a G7e torpedo , at the north side of the Koivisto-strait in the Gulf of Finland. The Russian boat was destroyed easily (19 dead, 7 survivors), but the noise of the explosion brought other Russian boats to the location.

At 1910hrs, Russian ‘Oberleutnant` Aleksander Kolenko, chief of MO 103 got a sonar contact on U-250 and dropped five depth charges. U-250 was not heavily damaged, but there were seen on the water an air-bubbles track and so MO 103 dropped a second series of five depth charges. One of these exploded over the diesel room and U-250 got a big hole in the hull and sank. Kapitänleutnant Werner-Karl Schmidt along with five other crew-members in the control-room got themselves out at the last minute. Needless to say the Russians were thrilled to have a German U-boat captain alive and a sunken U-boat in shallow waters. Russian divers soon discovered that the boat lay at only 27-meter depth with only a slight listing of 14 degrees to the right and a large hole over the top of the diesel room. Two large air tanks, 200 tons each, were transported to the area and the Russians worked behind a smoke-curtain to raise the boat. The Germans and the Finnish did what they could to prevent the boat with the new secret T5 (Zaunkönig) acoustic-torpedo falling into Soviet hands. Finnish coastal artillery and German torpedo boats made frequent attacks on the salvage site but to no avail. Finally in September 1944 the Russian raised U-250and towed it between air tanks to Kronstadt for examination. On 15 Sept 1944 U-250 came into the dry dock at Kronstadt. The former Commander Kptlt. Schmidt had to go first into the now dry boat, as the Russian believed some explosive charges might still be on the boat. The 6 survivors then spent some years in Russian captivity. From 12 April 1945 to 20 Aug 1945 in the Russian Navy as TS-14. Later broken up. (Alex Gordon and Dave Shirlaw)

U-481 attacked by two Soviet Il-2 (35. ShAP) in Narwa Bay in the Baltic. One Il-2 damaged and later ditched. At 1736, U-481 fired a Gnat at group of coastal minesweepers in Narva Bay and observed a hit after 35 seconds and saw the KT-804 (No 35) sink. At 1740, a second Gnat was fired, which detonated after 1 minute 55 seconds. Andersen could not observe the sinking of the KT-807 (No 42), but he saw how the damaged KT-806 was towed away. The U-boat later found wreckage at the site.

TINIAN: Tinian Town falls to the US forces.
In the Mariana Islands, US Seventh Air Force B-25s and P-47s from Saipan Island support US Marine ground troops on Tinian.

NEW GUINEA: During Operation GLOBETROTTER, elements of the US Army’s 6th Infantry Division are landed at Cape Opmari on the northwest coast of New Guinea and on Amsterdam and Middleburg Islands. Supporting the operation is the Navy’s Task Force 77.

GUAM: The southern half of the island has been mostly cleared.

SOUTH-WEST PACIFIC: With Admiral Berkey’s TF 78 supporting, General Sibert’s 6th Divison lands, unopposed, on the islands of Amsterdam and Middleburg off Cape Sansapor, New Guinea.

U.S.A.: Minesweeper USS Hilarity launched.

Submarines USS Kete and Sea Poacher commissioned.


8 posted on 07/30/2014 4:22:46 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Outstanding, as always. I only wish the current Nazis would withdraw from the west wing.. and the rest of the White House.


9 posted on 07/30/2014 5:12:44 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Steven Scharf; henkster

See page 8 item about Rommel.


10 posted on 07/30/2014 6:07:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Panzer Group West sector:

30 JUL 44 5pz photo 30Jul445pz_zpse496b958.jpg

11 posted on 07/30/2014 6:12:38 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Back to the top.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 6:12:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
7th Army Sector. At this point, you'd have to think that any position west of the Seine River is no longer tenable for the Germans.

30 JUL 44 7a photo 30Jul447a_zps7f847db9.jpg

13 posted on 07/30/2014 6:14:35 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
German estimate of Allied Order of Battle in Normandy. Note the copious use of whiteout to make German units disappear. If only it were that easy:

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14 posted on 07/30/2014 6:17:26 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Steven Scharf

I saw that; news of Rommel’s injury/death is in two stories today. Looks like the prisoner bag in Cobra has yielded some useful information.

Interesting how the Germans let the world know right away when von Rundstedt was sacked in the west, and Busch was sacked in the east, but no mention of Rommel or von Manstein for a long time.


15 posted on 07/30/2014 6:20:42 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I see on page 7 that Greg Boyington is listed as missing in action. Apparently he popped up again.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 6:45:59 AM PDT by FXRP
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To: FXRP
I see on page 7 that Greg Boyington is listed as missing in action. Apparently he popped up again.

He won't pop up until Aug '45. (page 6 actually - page numbers are at the top)

17 posted on 07/30/2014 6:56:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The USS Indianapolis sank on July 30, 1945 not 1944.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 7:57:27 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Thanks to Paul James of the Facebook group World War II 70th Anniversary, I can post this alternate version of the photo on page 11 of today's news.

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The alternate caption: "US 3rd Marine Division leathernecks disembark on the beach from an LVT-1 of the 3rd Amphibious Tractor Battalion during training for the invasion of Guam on Cape Esperance, Guadalcanal during the week of May 12, 1944."

Hmm. A little different than the Times caption. Which one is accurate?

19 posted on 07/30/2014 9:23:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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On Page 4, the courtship of Gandhi and Jinnah reaches the handshake stage. It will result in a marriage of convenience that lasts until the day of India’s independence.


20 posted on 07/30/2014 9:29:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I suspect it’s on Guadalcanal during the practice for the Guam landing. No airplanes in sight, for one thing.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 9:31:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: DFG
The USS Indianapolis sank on July 30, 1945 not 1944.

I forwarded your comment as feedback on onwar.com

22 posted on 07/30/2014 9:33:24 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Tax-chick

Also, would you be sitting comfortably on the side of the landing craft if people were shooting at you?


23 posted on 07/30/2014 9:35:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

It looks like he’s about to jump, but perhaps not with the sense of urgency live fire would provide.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 9:45:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

FDR’s price control regime is bringing back the 5-cent cup of coffee down from 7 or so cents.

This was obviously a re-election thing.


25 posted on 07/30/2014 9:46:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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On Page 6 Lt Col Gabreski is reported MIA.

Here’s his story:
On July 20, 1944, Gabreski had reached the 300-hour combat time limit for Eighth Air Force fighter pilots and was awaiting an aircraft to fly him back to the United States on leave and reassignment. He had already advised Kay Cochran to proceed with wedding plans, and his home town of Oil City, Pennsylvania, had raised $2,000 for a wedding present in anticipation of his return.

Gabreski found, however, that a bomber escort mission to Russelheim, Germany, was scheduled for that morning, and, instead of boarding the transport, he requested to “fly just one more.”

Returning from the mission, Gabreski observed Heinkel He 111s parked on the airfield at Bassenheim, Germany, and took his airplane down to attack.
Gabreski’s was dissatisfied with his first strafing run on an He 111, and he reversed for a second pass. When his tracers went over the parked bomber he dropped the nose of his Thunderbolt to adjust, and its propeller clipped the runway, bending the tips.

The damage caused his engine to vibrate violently and he was forced to crash land. Gabreski ran into nearby woods and eluded capture for five days, but was eventually captured. After being interrogated by Hanns Scharff, Gabreski was sent to Stalag Luft I. He was liberated when Soviet forces seized the camp in April 1945.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabby_Gabreski


26 posted on 07/30/2014 9:49:01 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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Interesting story ... and not only that, Oil City, Pa., just south of Northeast, is where the escaped German prisoner was captured just the other day.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 9:52:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

nice map

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the slow movement eastward in France must have been very frustrating


28 posted on 07/30/2014 9:52:59 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
In the Philippine Sea... The US heavy cruiser Indianapolis is sunk by a Japanese submarine.

Very much going to be hearing about that someday in the future.

29 posted on 07/30/2014 9:55:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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After being interrogated by Hanns Scharff, Gabreski was sent to Stalag Luft I.

I wonder if he met my uncle there. He had been at Stalag Luft I since his B-17 was shot down on 11 Jan 44.

30 posted on 07/30/2014 9:57:04 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Sounds like a very busy day. The Russians really took care of German subs today.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 9:58:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Tax-chick

The fascinating aspect is that Gabreski was flying on the deck over the runway in Bassenheim, Germany...which is DEEP inside Germany between Bonn and Frankfurt.

He was demonstrating that we already owned Germany. They just didn’t know it yet.


32 posted on 07/30/2014 9:59:37 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: DFG

Oops!


33 posted on 07/30/2014 10:00:13 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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He was demonstrating that we already owned Germany. They just didn’t know it yet.

Excellent observation.

34 posted on 07/30/2014 10:01:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Speaking of Scharff...

Hanns-Joachim Gottlob Scharff (December 16, 1907 – September 10, 1992) was a German Luftwaffe interrogator during the Second World War. He has been called the “Master Interrogator” of the Luftwaffe and possibly all of Nazi Germany; he has also been praised for his contribution in shaping U.S. interrogation techniques after the war. A mere Obergefreiter (the equivalent of a senior lance corporal), he was charged with interrogating German-captured American fighter pilots during the war after he became an interrogation officer in 1943. He has been highly praised for the success of his techniques, in particular because he never used physical means to obtain the required information.

Scharff’s interrogation techniques were so effective that he was occasionally called upon to assist other German interrogators in their questioning of bomber pilots and aircrews, including those crews and fighter pilots from countries other than the United States. Additionally, Scharff was charged with questioning many V.I.P.s (Very Important Prisoners) that were funneled through the interrogation center, namely senior officers and world-famous fighter aces.

In 1948, Scharff was invited by the United States Air Force to give lectures on his interrogation techniques and first-hand experiences. The U.S. military later incorporated Scharff’s methods into its curriculum at its interrogation schools. Many of Scharff’s methods are still taught in US Army interrogation schools. Scharff was granted immigration status.

From the 1950s until his death in 1992, Scharff redirected his efforts to artistry, namely mosaics. He eventually became a world-renowned mosaic artisan, with his handiwork on display in such locations as the California State Capitol building; Los Angeles City Hall; several schools, colleges, and universities, including the giant Outdoor Mosaic Mural facade of the Dixie State College Fine Arts Center; Epcot Center; and in the 15-foot arched mosaic walls featuring the story of Cinderella inside Cinderella Castle at Walt Disney World, Florida.


35 posted on 07/30/2014 10:02:08 AM PDT by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

did Kay marry him anyway?


36 posted on 07/30/2014 10:03:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Southack

bump

I am pretty sure at this point the German high command knew this war was going to be lost. Maybe they thought that at some point the allies would say “enough” and leave Germany intact or something.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 10:04:30 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Southack

Wow.


38 posted on 07/30/2014 10:06:31 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Southack

That is an absolutely fascinating story. He must have been a unique mind, to have excellent to such an extent in two such different careers.


39 posted on 07/30/2014 10:07:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick; henkster

Top ace, Gabby Gabreski survived!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabby_Gabreski

Prisoner of war[edit]

On July 20, 1944, Gabreski had reached the 300-hour combat time limit for Eighth Air Force fighter pilots and was awaiting an aircraft to fly him back to the United States on leave and reassignment. He had already advised Kay Cochran to proceed with wedding plans, and his home town of Oil City, Pennsylvania, had raised $2,000 for a wedding present in anticipation of his return.[15]

Gabreski found, however, that a bomber escort mission to Russelheim, Germany, was scheduled for that morning, and, instead of boarding the transport, he requested to “fly just one more.”[16] Returning from the mission, Gabreski observed Heinkel He 111s parked on the airfield at Bassenheim, Germany, and took his airplane down to attack.

Gabreski’s was dissatisfied with his first strafing run on an He 111, and he reversed for a second pass. When his tracers went over the parked bomber he dropped the nose of his Thunderbolt to adjust, and its propeller clipped the runway, bending the tips.[17] The damage caused his engine to vibrate violently and he was forced to crash land. Gabreski ran into nearby woods and eluded capture for five days, but was eventually captured. After being interrogated by Hanns Scharff, Gabreski was sent to Stalag Luft I. He was liberated when Soviet forces seized the camp in April 1945.[18]

Gabreski flew 166 combat sorties, and was officially credited by the USAAF with 28 aircraft destroyed in air combat and 3 on the ground.[19] He was assigned five P-47s during his time with the 56th FG, none of which was ever named, but all of which bore the fuselage identification codes HV: A.[20]


40 posted on 07/30/2014 10:24:10 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

July 30, 1944:


"A few weeks after D-Day, Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson proudly points to Allied progress into Nazi-held territory.
After visiting several war fronts, Stimson informed the American people in his radio address that victory was in sight, although the enemy was still fighting fiercely.
Just how fiercely even Stimson probably could not conceive: Although D-Day did indeed mark the beginning of the Allied march toward the Fatherland, German troops would resist for another 11 torturous months.
Egged on by Hitler, the retreating Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht often destroyed what they could not defend, depriving the Allies of housing and fuel and other materiel."



41 posted on 07/30/2014 10:53:34 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: DFG

The USS Indianapolis sank on July 30, 1945

“Eleven hundred...... “


42 posted on 07/30/2014 10:55:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Seizethecarp

Gabreski was also credited with 6.5 kills in the Korean War. He was one of only 7 US pilots to be an ace in 2 wars. Gabreski served in the military for 26 years.

Gabby and Kay were married for 48 years and had 9 children. 2 of their sons graduated from the US Air Force academy and were pilots. Their daughter-in-law Terry L. Gabreski was promoted to lieutenant general in August 2005.

Read Martin Caidin’s book “Thunderbolt” for information about the 56th Fighter Group (Zemke’s Wolfpack) with aces Robert Johnson and Gabby Grabreski.


43 posted on 07/30/2014 11:15:55 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

E.C. Daniels in his article on page 2 and 3 has his rivers mixed up (or the editir cahged it). The Seine goes from Parris to Le Harve.

As per Wiki: “The Sélune is a 91 km long river in the Manche department, Normandy, France, beginning near Saint-Cyr-du-Bailleul. It empties into the bay of Mont Saint-Michel (part of the English Channel) near [south of] Avranches, close to the mouth of the Sée river. Other towns along the Sélune are Barenton, Saint-Hilaire-du-Harcouët and Ducey.”


44 posted on 07/30/2014 11:45:37 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: DFG

Thanks for the additional details on this wonderful American family!


45 posted on 07/30/2014 11:52:20 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp; GeronL; Tax-chick

But we all still want to know; did he and Kay get married?


46 posted on 07/30/2014 11:58:48 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: henkster

:p


47 posted on 07/30/2014 12:06:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: henkster

See 43 - they were way married.


48 posted on 07/30/2014 12:10:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Tax-chick; GeronL

So they were. It got posted before I refreshed the page. A nice happy ending.


49 posted on 07/30/2014 12:52:36 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Seizethecarp; Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; Tax-chick; GeronL; Southack

Yes, Gabby and Kay married and had nine children. Gabby again became an ace in the Korean War, one of very few pilots to ace in both wars. He went on to a distinguished Air Force career.


50 posted on 07/30/2014 1:23:32 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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