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After shaky start, Ukraine turns eastern offensive around
AFP ^ | Oleksandr Savochenko

Posted on 07/30/2014 6:36:01 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

When Ukraine's military offensive to oust pro-Russian rebels from the restive east began in mid-April with humiliated soldiers meekly surrendering their armoured vehicles it looked doomed to failure.

But after more than three months of brutal fighting that has claimed some 1,100 lives, a sudden advance by battle-hardened government forces in recent weeks has seen them snatch back a string of key towns and left the once confident insurgents scrambling.

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To: McGruff

Actually, you could be more like me. You could choose to think like a conservative, God-fearing Christian instead of crass Putin-worshiping lowbrow.


21 posted on 07/30/2014 9:05:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy
It's as if these folks never read about the Gulag or the 70 years worth of crimes of the Soviet communist party. So they cannot understand just how cruel, sick and depraved Putin was a party member and KGB Colonel. Nor do they understand that Putin wasn't just a party member in the secret police; he was a second generation secret policeman. He's been a deceptive fraud as long as he's had a public life. Putin's opposition to Obama is merely opportunism. His commitment to rebuilding the Russian/Soviet empire is heartfelt. Their commitment to Putin is at best naïve.
22 posted on 07/30/2014 9:14:15 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

You might want to remove Pro-freedom from your tagline. You aren’t in this case.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 9:39:20 AM PDT by McGruff (I don't trust the Russians but I don't trust the Ukrainians either.)
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To: McGruff

And you might want to write about your bedwetting problem and how it impacts your love of Putin.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 9:57:53 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
". . . God-fearing Christian instead of crass Putin-worshiping lowbrow.

Now someone isn't a God fearing Christian just because they don't believe what the US and European media are spoon feeding them?

So, then, the media believes in supporting "marrying" queers to one another and unless you support that too you're not a "God Fearing Christian".

Great, since you're four square behind the US media worldview, does little el have two daddies by any chance?

You're doing exactly what every stinkin' liberal democrat scumbag does when anyone disagrees with them; cranking up the name calling and outright lies until people just give up on a given site as a worthwhile place to actually discuss anything.

25 posted on 07/30/2014 10:13:32 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: McGruff

forgot to ping you on my previous comment.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 10:14:16 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Let me see if I can follow you: if I believe the U.S. version of events, I am in favor of homosexual marriage? Is that why I need to “discuss” Russian propaganda?


27 posted on 07/30/2014 10:20:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rashputin
Are you obsessed with fags and queers? If you are, tell me how that's germane to the subject at hand. I know Puitn's a champion of this subject.

If I tell you two and two is four, and you say that's a queer answer, I'll know you've come to grips with your inability to think about facts. I'm against the Gay agenda. My opposition to the Gay agenda won't drive me into the pro-Putin gangster statesman agenda.

28 posted on 07/30/2014 10:21:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Tell little el’s other daddy hi.


29 posted on 07/30/2014 10:28:44 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: txrefugee
In 1945, the US could not defeat the USSR. Germany couldn't do it, and Patton was all mouth.

You should thank Russia for defeating Hitler, or we would have suffered double.

30 posted on 07/30/2014 10:28:44 AM PDT by duckln
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To: elhombrelibre

Thank you for proving my point.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 10:29:10 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Piss off, commie.


32 posted on 07/30/2014 10:29:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Waaaa, Waaaa

ROTFLOL

Say, how about those SS-21s the Ukraine Army is firing into Donetsk? Accurate? Big enough to take out a whole apartment building in a single blow?

Yes sir, tell us again how Kiev cares about civilian casualties.

33 posted on 07/30/2014 10:33:58 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: elhombrelibre
My opposition to the Gay agenda won't drive me into the pro-Putin gangster statesman agenda.

How about his standing with Egypt and Syria against the Muslim Brotherhood. Would that do it?

34 posted on 07/30/2014 10:35:57 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Rashputin
Yes sir, tell us again how Kiev cares about civilian casualties.

When did I ever do that? Seriously, do you ever stop making crap up? First, I support homos . . . now, I believe in bloodless war.

35 posted on 07/30/2014 10:39:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: elhombrelibre

You stay classy elhombrelibre.


36 posted on 07/30/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by McGruff (I don't trust the Russians but I don't trust the Ukrainians either.)
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To: McGruff

Thanks, McGruff, I didn’t expect that from you.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 10:53:40 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: 1rudeboy
"First, I support homos . . . "

I bet you feel better now that you're out of the closet.

"now, I believe in bloodless war."

So I ask about civilian casualties and that's your response. Good, now we have the fact that Kiev is unconcerned with slaughtering civilians right up front. Those of us who actually think things through rather than regurgitating the media machine lies already knew that, but, it's nice of you to admit that killing civilians is part and parcel of Kiev policy.

So, how do you like having your own logic and BS tactics applied to you?

38 posted on 07/30/2014 10:54:12 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

What is your point? You admire Putin and want Russia’s neighbors’ to be subjugated by him, right, Rash Putin?


39 posted on 07/30/2014 10:57:31 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Rashputin

I honestly think, despite your hand-wringing about civilian casualties, that you wouldn’t care one whit about them if they were caused by the Russians, or their fellow-travelers.


40 posted on 07/30/2014 11:14:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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