Posted on 08/02/2014 4:45:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
Back in the 1950s, C.S. Lewis saw chastity as under attack with "all the contemporary propaganda for lust that makes people "feel that the desires we are resisting are so 'natural,' so 'healthy,' and so reasonable, that it is almost perverse and abnormal to resist them."
You can now safely delete the word "almost."
Today virginity isn't a virtue but a burden. Chastity is a freak show and anyone who chooses to keep it is a carnival barker. In today's entertainment world, weirdos -- especially sexual weirdos -- drive a juicy plot, so virgins are in vogue, as a target or merely as an anthropological curiosity.
MTV has a new reality show called "Virgin Territory" where four young participants explain their "very tumultuous journey" in the "tricky world of virginity." MTV sells it as pathos: "Whether they're trying to lose their V-cards or keep them safely tucked in their pockets for as long as possible, being pure is really starting to grate on them."
MTV's Executive Vice President of Series Development Lauren Dolgen tried to make this sound like a public service. Because of a partnership with The National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, she claimed, "MTV will continue this tradition by elevating the discussion of responsible sexual health to include the topic of virginity in a way that our audience might find surprising."
Translation: MTV's challenge is to find "a way" to introduce the virtue of virginity without projecting its virtue.
As TV critic Willa Paskin at Slate.com explained, the show "tries to get into psychological explanations for all of this unwanted virginity, because like the participants' friends, MTV thinks it's weird." Variety TV critic Brian Lowry nailed it on the head. "Some networks will pimp kids out -- under cover of sex education -- to score ratings."
Then there's the new film "Very Good Girls" in which two college-bound Brooklyn, New York, girls resolve to lose their virginity over the summer, but both target the same boy who vends ice cream at the beach. It's not a teen sex comedy; it's meant to be more profound. "When we lose our innocence, we have to find ourselves," announced the trailer.
Susan Wloszczyna at RogerEbert.com wasn't impressed. "(They) decide to relieve themselves of the burden that is their virginity," she wrote. To celebrate their decision, they strip down and run stark naked on a crowded public beach before leaping into the water." She called the film "a very bad excuse" to see the former child actress Dakota Fanning "flash her bare fanny, fondle herself provocatively and cavort in her underwear for no dramatic purpose." Director Naomi Foner Gyllenhaal described these two characters revolting against their virginity as "serious, interesting, committed girls about how they become women." She said this movie is rare, because women "don't often see themselves with any reality on screen."
There it is again. "Reality" is defined by Hollywood's sexual-liberation ethos. Women who decide to retain their virginity are somehow not "real" women and certainly can't expect to see their "reality on screen." The "contemporary propaganda for lust" just never stops coming.
desired state from a Christianity perspective? yes ...that is what God wants. But man is in a fallen state. So I would state it a bit differently. Our natural state on this earth is sin. Let’s get real here ... Only through the power of God can a single adult designed by God to want and have sex live a chase life which is not natural but supernatural.
Well, you know how difficult it is for women, so in the 1950’s and ‘60’s. Feminists complained that women were regarded as sex objects. Then they decided to reject Christianity and embraced the Hugh Hefner attitude towards sex, and voila!!! Women are reduced to hot dates, one-night-stands, breast enhancement surgeries, abortions on demand, etc..
And the so-called liberal feminists rejoice that women are now all behaving like prostitutes - but the problem is they get no money for it, so they are in poverty.
No more are women sex objects, but reduced to white slavery.
Well yeah, virginity is a natural state. It’s the state everyone is born into, and which we remain in until marriage. That’s the way it is in what I like to call civilization.
Second, when I speak of "natural," I'm speaking of human nature, which is to say, a rational nature. Humans don't lean "natural" from wildlife; at least, not entirely, when applied to ourselves.
Yep, it WAY easier to get STDs, worry about pregnancy, and sneak around. Sure.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Hollywood Plays Around With Virginity, Kodos the Executioner wrote:
Virginity/chastity are NOT natural states.
A fascinating point of view, and quite common. Wrong of course, but very common.
Do tell “Kodos”, what leads you to the conclusion that, “Virginity/chastity are NOT natural states.”?
“On a related note - the X-Men movies are all about “accepting” perversion”
Let’s not forget about homosexual “marriage”.
And coming to a theater near you Valentine’s Day 2015 perversion will be all the rage. Instead of getting his wife/girlfiend a box of candy or flowers, they go and watch an S&M porn flick, then stop by the local Adult “Toy” store for some whips,ropes, chains, blind folds, handcuffs and any other Marquis de Sade “help” aids to show his wife/girlfriend just how much he really “loves” her.
You seem more interested in snickering up your sleeves and pointing your fingers at the “godless” heathen who doesn’t share your church-approved, oh-so-enlightened take on sex.
So let me try to rephrase this in a way even the more hoity-toity among you can grasp.
Going without sex is freakish and unnatural.
Sex is good. Sex is fun. We are going to do it.
We are guided by our instincts, tempered by our upbringing and our values. That said, sex is one of our most base instincts.
And as for you, “miss marmelstein”, there are plenty of girls born WITHOUT a hymen, or it is broken by regular physical activity that has NOTHING to do with sex. You seem to share the attitude voiced by some in the more extremist Muslim countries. Who needs the refresher in Medical 101, hmm?
This article was supposed to be about our attitudes regarding sex being shaped by the weirdo perverts in HollyWEIRD. How about you get back on topic instead of trying to ding me? You’re wasting your time.
Um...it looks like I hurt your feelings.
Contempt. Not conducive to good conversation.
Going without sex is freakish and unnatural.According to whom? What authority makes that claim? And what limits do you or that authority posit? Do you accept age limits? Time limits? Limits of contract or agreement? Societal limits? Violence? Do tell, or great arbiter of sex, do tell!
The natural states of healthy human beings, male or female, are “virgins” or “parents.” When people try to act is if it’s otherwise, things go wrong.Precisely ma'am. As for the authority behind that, see either the Christian orthodox view of same, or for the heathens/pagans and others here, observe Natural Law and the results of denying same versus the results of not.
“Um...it looks like I hurt your feelings.”
Nope! I don’t get emotionally invested in internet postings.
I save my emotions for more important things.
Like sex.
Are you for real?
Can you please leave your sex life out of this, newbie? It’s creepy.
“Contempt. Not conducive to good conversation.”
I totally agree. I sense a lot of that here.
What these good folks seem to not realize is I’M ON YOUR SIDE!!!
The church’s teachings are a great guide in helping us to decide when & how to engage in such an intimate realationship. But I’m talking about concepts that pre-date organized religion. I know; some folks think that before the church, God hadn’t created anything, yet. If that’s your thing, okay!
It comes down to PEOPLE!
The most sexual part of your body is NOT between your legs!
It’s between your ears.
And if you can involve the part nestled in your chest, between your lungs... there is NOTHING better.
Are you OK?
One really only needs basic biology to reach my conclusion. Human beings are born virgins and remain virgins until they have sex. Once they have sex - if they do it in a natural way - they will quickly become parents, if they are healthy.
So, unable to answer? Why?
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