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Shattering Myths to Help the Climate
New York Times ^ | August 2, 2014 | By ROBERT H. FWANK

Posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:45 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Each new climate-change study seems more pessimistic than the last. This May and June, for example, were the hottest ones on record for the planet.

Effective countermeasures now could actually ward off many of these threats at relatively modest cost. Yet despite a robust scientific consensus that greenhouse gas emissions are at the root of the problem, legislation to curb them has gone nowhere in Congress. In response, President Obama has proposed stricter regulations on electric utilities, which some scientists warn may be too little, too late.

Why aren’t we demanding more forceful action? One reason may be the frequent incantation of a motley collection of myths, each one rooted in bad economics:

Myth 1: The enormous uncertainty of climate science argues for a wait-and-see strategy.

Myth 2: Slowing the pace of climate change would be prohibitively difficult.

Myth 3: A carbon tax would destroy jobs.

Myth 4: The cost of reducing CO2 emissions would be prohibitively high.

Myth 5: It’s pointless for Americans to reduce CO2 emissions, since unilateral action won’t solve global warming.

Myth 6: Penalizing greenhouse gas emissions would violate people’s freedom.

There’s still time to eliminate this catastrophic risk at surprisingly modest cost. If we fail to act, future historians may wonder from behind high sea walls why we allowed the more effective responses we could have pursued to be blocked by an easily debunked collection of myths.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; chickenlittle; climategate; cookedthebooks; criminalconspiracy; doomsdaycult; fraud; globalwarmingscare; hoax; hysteria; journalism; marxism; pseudoscience; redistribution; socialism; thegreenmenace

1 posted on 08/02/2014 7:44:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This May and June, for example, were the hottest ones on record for the planet.

Tell it to my tomato plants.
2 posted on 08/02/2014 7:47:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

ROBERT H. FWANK?

Is he a relative of Bawney Fwank?


3 posted on 08/02/2014 7:50:37 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Algore and the IPCC said acting in this decade would be too late.

I trust the Nobel prize winners over this stupid hack. It’s all over for humanity.


4 posted on 08/02/2014 7:50:46 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

>>If we fail to act, future historians may wonder from behind high sea walls

Some of those sea walls may need to be as high as 300 mm high!! 300! Oh, the huge manatee!


5 posted on 08/02/2014 7:50:53 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Propaganda 101. They should forever hide their faces in shame.
6 posted on 08/02/2014 7:53:07 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Bryanw92
According to UNEP, they should have been in place eight years ago. (But wait . . .)
7 posted on 08/02/2014 7:54:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Each new climate-change study seems more pessimistic than the last. This May and June, for example, were the hottest ones on record for the planet …
The studies keep getting hotter? Hmm. Certainly not ambient temperature; got as low as 48°F a couple of nights ago where I’m living.
8 posted on 08/02/2014 7:56:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek
The cost of reducing CO2 emissions would be prohibitively high.

Just for anyone's information. The atmosphere we breathe is composed of approximately 78% nitrogen. Approximately, 21% oxygen. The 1% left is composed of the minor gasses in the atmosphere of which carbon dioxide (CO2) comprises approximately .035% or 35 one-thousands of a percent.

The greenhouse gas catastrophe is a grand hoax. And, the low-information and the poorly educated with educations fall for it hook, line and sinker.

9 posted on 08/02/2014 7:58:23 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: cripplecreek

Last Friday we had a daytime high of 62 degrees just north of Denver. 2” of rain in 24 hours.


10 posted on 08/02/2014 8:02:11 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: cripplecreek

I deny global warming ( like 80% of those polled here). “Climate change” was a plan B but you don’t define it . You have no evidence just lies and conjecture. It is just an amorphous blob of nothing. We will not change anything based on a lie, Nothing!! These folks are kooks and the entire construction is collapsing. They are a Flat earth bunch.


11 posted on 08/02/2014 8:02:26 AM PDT by rlapuma
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Joe, is that you? I wondered what happened to you.


12 posted on 08/02/2014 8:03:50 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We must act now before it is too late.


13 posted on 08/02/2014 8:07:35 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Myth 6: Penalizing greenhouse gas emissions would violate people’s freedom.
Yeah, let's put that pesky "freedom" thing at the bottom of the list.
14 posted on 08/02/2014 8:12:33 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: cripplecreek

This May and June, for example, were the hottest ones on record for the planet.


I agree with your skepticism. In the upper Midwest, it was a very cold spring, and July was also cooler than normal in Minnesota. Just where do they go to find the “hottest year” on record for the planet?

They utter phrases such as this and expect everyone to genuflect before their dogmas.


15 posted on 08/02/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What absolute BS.


16 posted on 08/02/2014 8:18:53 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Parmy

You forgot H2O — water vapor is a big part of the 1%.


17 posted on 08/02/2014 8:20:55 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Parmy
The greenhouse gas catastrophe is a grand hoax. And, the low-information and the poorly educated with educations fall for it hook, line and sinker.

And to pour salt into the wound these alarmist peckerwoods call those who understand the *real* science "deniers." But they control the message through compromised media and institutions from the U.N. to national governments. Tyranny always hides just out of sight, waiting for the gullible to let down their guard.

18 posted on 08/02/2014 8:35:21 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Gumdrop

They rely on the fact that none of us were around 1000 years ago to accurately log global temperatures. Even 1000 years would still be a tiny snapshot and it would require 10,000 or more before any real trends would begin to appear. Even that would be a short term trend in the overall age of the planet.

We can ask what the optimum temperature of the planet is but the global warming alarmists simply can’t say with any honesty.

Looking back over the 4.5 billion years of the planet, its been mostly warmer than it is now.


19 posted on 08/02/2014 8:39:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did anyone notice the “myth” that’s missing from that list?

Myth 7 The earth has been cooling for the last 18 years.

Oh, wait. That’s not a myth. That’s right there in their own data.

Of course that data is not appropriate for their hockey sticks.


20 posted on 08/02/2014 8:40:06 AM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: GSWarrior

We must act yesterday because today is too late


21 posted on 08/02/2014 8:44:49 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If we fail to act, future historians may wonder from behind high sea walls

What freaking morons these people are...

If the ice caps melted we could see a 200 ' rise in sea levels, but since the average temperature in Antarctica is -37°C, so the ice there is in no danger of melting.

So let's pretend that we are idiot global warming alarmist...

If the Antarctica ice cap ( 7,000 ft thick) COULD melt, just how how hot the rest of the world be ? ...

It would need to be near 200 ' F ....in other words uninhabitable...

...and they call us science deniers...

22 posted on 08/02/2014 8:48:32 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Calls them myths with absolutely no information to back this up.


23 posted on 08/02/2014 8:51:56 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: cripplecreek

Those very same “myths” are used regularly by the Left against causes they don’t favor.


24 posted on 08/02/2014 8:55:00 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: jimfree
The functional equivalent of that — a cap-and-trade system — worked spectacularly well when Congress required marketable permits for discharging sulfur dioxide (SO2) in 1995. Acid rain caused by SO2 emissions quickly plummeted, at about one-sixth the cost predicted. Once people have to pay for their emissions, they find ingenious ways of reducing them

THIS, confirms what I've always feared: Non-Technical people will assume we can control CO2 the same way we did SO2. They don't have a clue. It's no-where near in the same category.

25 posted on 08/02/2014 9:12:58 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: cripplecreek

Bastard says that June was the 15th hottest June during the period 1981-2013. So how does that make it the hottest on record? Was the AC unit broken in the NYT’s newsroom?


26 posted on 08/02/2014 9:15:32 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Gumdrop

Check out Iceagenow.com and you will see that it has been abnormally cold globally.


27 posted on 08/02/2014 9:17:55 AM PDT by redangus
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To: redangus

The summer of 2012 was among the hottest and driest I remember in my neck of the woods but last summer was cool to average and this summer has been downright cold here. It got down into the 40s here a couple nights ago.


28 posted on 08/02/2014 9:23:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"hottest ones on record for the planet

Which planet?
29 posted on 08/02/2014 9:49:04 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: redangus

I believe that 1934 was the warmest year since records have been taken and in 1935 the hurricane with the lowest barometric pressure ever recorded struck the upper Florida Keys on Labor day.


30 posted on 08/02/2014 10:38:33 AM PDT by mc5cents ("Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: woofie
We must act yesterday because today is too late

How are our scientists doing on that time machine?

31 posted on 08/02/2014 11:11:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: KSCITYBOY

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


32 posted on 08/02/2014 12:07:34 PM PDT by abclily
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