Skip to comments.Impeachment is all we have left (Saturbray)
Posted on 08/02/2014 8:41:13 AM PDT by bray
Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. James 1:22 NIV
Now the latest talking point by the DNC is that only Republicans impeach presidents. They conveniently forget their attempt of impeaching Bush over the supposed outing of a paper pusher in the basement of the CIA. Of course the Marxist establishment attempted to make her into a female version of 007 when in reality she was nothing more than a glorified secretary and this minor indiscretion was made into the crime of the century. Right up there with Bush lied about the WMD which they had endless hearings on only to find no deception by his administration whatsoever. Does anyone really think these were not supposed to lead to his impeachment?
So we have an outraged Marxist media and their Party making it sound as if the President has done nothing wrong when a few years earlier they sent a man to jail in an attempt to impeach Bush. They were outraged that a Democrat activist working in a gummit agency was revealed, but have no issue at all that a gummit agency was targeting American citizens. Apparently, if the CIA was targeting citizens whose only crime was dissent, that is fine as is the destruction of incriminating evidence as long as it is against Tea Partiers or as the President calls them, Tea Baggers. Our watchdog media would have been right at home in Nazi Germany.
We got a brief glimpse inside the mind of IRS head Lois Lerner when a non destroyed email had her calling Tea Partiers a__ho_s and terrorists with one of her fellow IRS heads. Wonder what other names and incrimination is on those conveniently lost records? This is the same lady, and I use the term loosely; who met with the President 150 times during the first four years of his administration. America is supposed to believe this community organizer who knows that money is the lifeblood of his reelection was not making sure she stalled their tax exemption? This is the same guy who had his political opponents divorce records unsealed to win his Senate race, so this was a no brainer to stop the momentum of the Tea Party.
So the same group who sent Scooter Libby to jail for three years and destroyed him financially are incensed that anyone would even consider impeaching this crook. If Nixon was impeached for threatening to use the IRS on his political enemies and supposedly destroyed 30 seconds of recording tape, we are now supposed to ignore the actual use of the IRS on your political enemies and the destruction of hundreds of hours of email conversations.
The conventional wisdom, the Three Pillars (academia, media and the DNC) say that impeachment will help their messiah. They believe the people will rally around the presidency and be repulsed by his impeachment trial. That may be true if you have the Clinton machine behind them and they can laugh it off as only about sex, but this is about attacking American citizens with the strength and power of the gummit. A large number of Americans still understand the concept of fair and the only thing less popular than congress and gridlock is the IRS. When it is shown there was a coordinated effort to make his opponents lives miserable with an all powerful entity his favorability levels are going to flat line.
Are the Three Pillars really saying that if and when Republicans capture the White House it is fair game to go after Marxist groups with gummit agencies? After all if they are going to make the case that all of this corruption is fine when they are in charge it has to be fine when they are not.
Will it be ok to close down these temples of indoctrination? Can we go after the Unions and assorted groups with spy agencies and shut them down? Can we spy on the media without any concern for their privacy rights? These questions have to be brought into the light and allow the voting public to cast their votes on whether America decency no longer exists or do we now have a country that can bully its citizens? Say what you want about GW Bush he respected the American people and they respected him. Those days are over since we have a president who dislikes America and despises his political enemies. We are at a real crossroads in this country and especially in his Party do these means really justify the ends?
We have enough questions about law breaking to begin impeachment proceedings which is nothing more than an investigation of those infractions. It is nothing more than a check against an executive branch that is using the power and strength against its own people which we have seen. The only question now is who was directing this illegal use of the IRS and cover up. We have to know whether or not he is so vindictive he would order his cabinet to break the law and use their offices to harass and harm American taxpayers. If he did then he needs to pay a price as do all of his leaders who did the actual acts.
The precedent has been set with Scooter Libby who the Dems used to get Bush impeached and was sent to jail for 30 months before he was pardoned. It was also set time and time again with the Dem committees to find evidence of lying over and over from the Truther investigations to WMD and any other thing they could invent to destroy Bushs administration which they finally with the help of the Three Pillars accomplished after years of vicious attacks and false charges. The Republican Party does not have a willing media that will investigate any of these actual crimes due to loyalty to their Marxist agenda. This in addition to a corrupt Attorney General there is no check for a corrupt Executive Branch and that is an investigation and impeachment. The founders brilliantly put this in the Constitution to prohibit the President from deciding he is a king and could dictate from the Executive Branch where all the power is concentrated.
We are now in a Constitutional crisis as the Marxists have taken control of this country through the front door. They are on the verge of turning our democracy into a dictatorship to make slaves out of the masses through the use of gummit agencies like the IRS, NSA, EPA, FBI and whatever agency they require to control the people. The people have one check and balance and that is the congress where this can be stopped, although it will take courage and dedication to the freedom our founding fathers envisioned. It will take faith in the American people to want freedom more than Obamaphones. It wont be about Party, elections or career enhancement it will be about starting to bring down the Three Pillars and relighting Lady Libertys torch. It is time to go back to 1776 and throw out a corrupt king.
Pray America wakes up
What about Nixon?..
We don’t even have impeachment as an option, if actual removal from office is the goal. No way in the world will 67 Senators vote to convict.
Then we have nothing.
It is not about conviction, it is about the truth. This is the only way to get it out and once he is in the low 30s don’t count out 67.
“Then we have nothing.”
You are correct. We will have Biden.
What about revolution?...
Why was the 2nd amandment given?..
Actually it was given for when impeachment is not possible..
you know................ LIKE NOW....
Not unless the states hold an article 5 and repe the 17th amendment and put the states back in control.
Impeachment is all we have left.
No there is that 2nd Amendment thing. That’s all we have left.
Are we willing to lose another 1/2 million men? He won’t have the same Rules of Engagement against Americans he gives to Mooselips.
The article is illogical as is the argument. Impeachment is not about justice, it is a political remedy. In politics, truth is very much a bystander. The actors are all politicians and they will behave in a political fashion, not as a legal proceeding.
As for impeachment itself, if Articles of Impeachment are delivered by the House, the Senate must sit in a trial and it form and function changes, but it’s makeup does not. As in the Clinton impeachment, a Senate trial can end without examination of evidence, and without a vote on the Articles, so what is left is political theater where the other side has every opportunity to write their own script. The outcome is predetermined by the political will of the parties involved and the Republicans are incapable of delivering a single Democrat vote and cannot deliver all of their own votes to boot.
Impeachment is a pathway to failure that can only serve to bolster Obama. Obama understands this, the media understands this. Many conservatives choose to believe in a fantasy that can never be.
It was tough enough with Clinton, but we had such outstanding rhetoric from a “Scottish Law” expert. I don’t see that a better scenario exists with the Democrats in charge. As a moral victory, the charges would be in the Congressional Record for a while, until the hard drive crashes.
The Democrats, of course, could care less about moral victories, they only want real ones. And, they will get a big one if this idea goes forward.
I can just hear Kenyan in front of a crowd now. Impeachment? Is that all they got? They’re gonna impeach me for just doin’ my job? (LIV laughing in the background)
He's the President.
Yes, Obama deserves to be thrown out of office. But...the sad reality is, there is no way the Republicans can muster enough votes in the Senate to accomplish it. No way. Now how.
Impeachment is the briar patch Obama wants to be thrown into. He is practically begging for it.
All the talk of it does is incite Obama’s base to come out to vote when many would be otherwise demoralized and staying home on election day.
In a perfect world, impeachment would be the way to go. But, we do not live in such a world. We live in this one. So, let’s not let the demand for the ‘perfect’ solution be the enemy of the doable one; and what is doable is punishing Obama through a great victory in November.
Explain why his numbers dropped 6 points this week when all the news was his impeachment? Follow my path and it will drop another 6. Politics isn't about logic, it is about leading and works much like golf. You hit right for the ball to go left and vice versa.
“Politics is the art of delaying any decisions until the issue is no longer relevant.”