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American doctor infected with Ebola returns to U.S.
WaPo ^ | 8/2/2014 | Joel Achenbach, Brady Dennis and Caelainn Hogan

Posted on 08/02/2014 10:43:11 AM PDT by mojito

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To: kaila
instead of putting everyone else at risk.

Really, these two patients whose transport and hospitalization is being scrutinized to a higher degree than any other two people in the world are "putting everyone else at risk"? I don't buy that. And if something bizarre happened, like an aircraft or vehicle crash, the area would be cordoned off immediately. That's how we do things in this country. You would not see little kids picking through the wreckage like you would in Africa or parts of Ukraine. And there is already Ebola in this country in a few labs (we hope not in general travelers).

101 posted on 08/02/2014 12:21:34 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: cripplecreek

Is this the FIRST ever in this country? Funny how these things happen in at the end of the week, when Obama is in office. Just like Bowe Bergdahl, slip it in on a weekend, no one will notice.


102 posted on 08/02/2014 12:22:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: mojito
The author of that New Yorker report in #42, Richard Preston, wrote The Hot Zone, an unforgettable true book about Ebola's close cousin visiting the DC area in 1989. It's the great read for anyone concerned about Ebola. It struck literally too close in time for me. Had the real underlying events taken place 6 months later, the chief protagonist, in normal military position rotations, would have been my former next door neighbor. I trust he would have done as well as his predecessor, but am glad he didn't have the chance.
103 posted on 08/02/2014 12:26:34 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: formosa
If I were a patient at Emory I would definitely be checking myself out and calling family for a ride home.

That's ridiculous. Are you afraid they brought a container load of African Fruit Bats along on the trip?

Also, many extremely hazardous chemicals and agents are used in industry and stored all around you. Some of these will kill you with greater efficacy than Ebola. Do you plan all your trips with at least a ten mile buffer between you and any kind of factory or storage facility?

104 posted on 08/02/2014 12:27:27 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sherman Logan

Who said they were abandon to their fate? It’s not as if we don’t have hundreds of other medical personnel and equipment over there.


105 posted on 08/02/2014 12:27:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: horse_doc

It’s amazing to me that a doctor who is supposedly so charitable and selfless somehow thinks he’s better than his poor patients and deserves healthcare that no one in Liberia will likely ever receive.

And I grew up in Africa and was treated for a blood borne disease by Christian missionaries. So I know exactly what he’s been doing over there. And why.

When (not if) this becomes an outbreak in this country the blame will be put squarely on Christian do-gooders.

Wait and see.


106 posted on 08/02/2014 12:28:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: steve86

Because we can surely trust the CDC to handle their pathogens in an appropriately safe manner:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/02/us-usa-healthcare-cdc-idUKKBN0G201A20140802


107 posted on 08/02/2014 12:29:43 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: steve86; formosa
"If I were a patient at Emory I would definitely be checking myself out and calling family for a ride home."

That's ridiculous. Are you afraid they brought a container load of African Fruit Bats along on the trip?

No, it's not ridiculous, steve86. It's called survival instinct.
108 posted on 08/02/2014 12:30:00 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: ConfidentConservative

Impossible to tell really, but he’s certainly completely exposed in that picture, as is the person who he’s working with, even tho’ she is wearing scrubs and a mask.

He looks like he’s a fine fellow, as does the woman, but as we know nature doesn’t really care about one’s character.


109 posted on 08/02/2014 12:30:28 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: JohnBovenmyer

What’s the truly disturbing aspect of that book is just how many times CDC personnel broke protocol. And broke it with a disease they suspected was a level 4 pathogen in humans.

But failed to tell anyone that needed to know because they didn’t want to start a panic.


110 posted on 08/02/2014 12:31:04 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: justa-hairyape

Bottom line, any plane should be set ablaze and then bulldozed into a very deep hole.


111 posted on 08/02/2014 12:32:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: ConfidentConservative

There’s a better picture here, borrowed this link from another thread. They look pretty covered up, but basically if you’re not in a space suit I’ve got doubts.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-american-ebola-patient-arrives-in-us-en-route-to-emory-university/?PageSpeed=noscript


112 posted on 08/02/2014 12:34:23 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Sherman Logan
We should never abandon our own for convenience, or even for safety. No more Benghazis!

This is nothing like Benghazi. How much risk (lives lost) would there have been in attempting to save the personnel in Benghazi? Now how many lives are possibly being put at risk in America by bringing these two missionaries home? This is NOTHING like Benghazi.
113 posted on 08/02/2014 12:34:45 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
As if the usurper and his family are any more resistant to it than the tea party. But he doesn't think that far ahead. He's invincible!
114 posted on 08/02/2014 12:34:51 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

According to wiki:

“No ebolavirus-specific treatment exists.[52] Treatment is primarily supportive in nature and includes minimizing invasive procedures, balancing fluids and electrolytes to counter dehydration, administration of anticoagulants early in infection to prevent or control disseminated intravascular coagulation, administration of procoagulants late in infection to control hemorrhaging, maintaining oxygen levels, pain management, and administration of antibiotics or antimycotics to treat secondary infections.”

Sounds like more than giving them water to me.


115 posted on 08/02/2014 12:35:31 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: PghBaldy
Is this the FIRST ever in this country?

Ebola's also lethal cousin, Marburg, found its way to Colorado in 2008. The patient survived and was diagnosed in hindsight 6 months later after the patient read about a fatal, but similar, case imported to Holland, and requested re-testing. Marburg was considered as a diagnosis while she was ill, but the tests for it then came back negative. Not an entirely encouraging story to me.

116 posted on 08/02/2014 12:36:37 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Sherman Logan
Well said. I agree completely.

God Bless these two American ebola victims and may He guide the medical staff charged with healing them.

117 posted on 08/02/2014 12:37:33 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: bgill

FWIW, they wear rubber boots under the suits.


118 posted on 08/02/2014 12:37:54 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Sherman Logan

All of which can be done in a field hospital.

Ask any military medic how that works.


119 posted on 08/02/2014 12:37:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Shelayne

Wearing the boots under the suit itself doesn’t prevent the suit from becoming damaged.

If he’d been wearing boots OVER the suit it would be a different thing.


120 posted on 08/02/2014 12:39:02 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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