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Man Who Shot Eric Garner Chokehold Video Arrested
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Aug 3, 2014 | Pervaiz Shallwani

Posted on 08/03/2014 4:29:05 PM PDT by Leaning Right

The man who shot the cellphone video showing a police officer using an apparent chokehold on a Staten Island man who later died, was arrested Saturday night on charges that he was carrying a stolen loaded handgun, a law-enforcement official said.

Ramsey Orta, 22 years old, was charged by the New York Police Department with criminal possession of a weapon and criminal possession of a weapon with a previous conviction, police said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; chokehold; donutwatch; garner; nypd; pantaleo
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To: Leaning Right; Cap'n Crunch
Or perhaps certain cops were following Orta, hoping to get in a little payback.

"Planting a gun" on Orta would need a stretch. I'll stick with Occam's Razor.

61 posted on 08/03/2014 7:47:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

Story? Would you care to wager? I also have a trashed knee from Judo and a few broken bones.

You want to party with me? Care to explain?


62 posted on 08/03/2014 7:50:36 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch

You get the reputation you deserve.


63 posted on 08/03/2014 7:51:08 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Cops don’t do anything good now-a-days. Not one. I’m sure of it because I haven’t seen it in the media.

Au contraire. I see a story or two every week where a police officer does something good for the citizenry (because he or she isn't treating them like the peasantry), without waddling out of an MRAP.

They've overcome their training.

64 posted on 08/03/2014 7:52:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: WTFOVR

Really? Guilty by media I suppose.


65 posted on 08/03/2014 7:56:17 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: kiryandil
Planting a gun" on Orta would need a stretch.

I agree. That's why I doubt that a plant happened. But following Orta specifically, hoping to catch him with something...not a stretch at all.

It's all in the timing. Had Orta next been arrested six months from now, I wouldn't be so curious.

66 posted on 08/03/2014 7:57:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: kiryandil

And MRAP’s have what to do with this incident?


67 posted on 08/03/2014 7:58:10 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch

How many instances of my own personal experiences, involving police corruption across several states, would you like me to cite here?


68 posted on 08/03/2014 8:03:14 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; Leaning Right

WTF are you saying?

Are you suggesting the video he shot of the Garner incident is somehow bad because he might have subsequently broke one of tens of thousands of laws Americans are now subjected to?


69 posted on 08/03/2014 8:03:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
You want to party with me? Care to explain?

Perhaps you're too young to remember Stripes - or you need to see it to water your sense of humor, which is apparently parched...

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(you KNOW you want to click the pic!)

70 posted on 08/03/2014 8:12:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

Oh PLEASE. LEOs are hardly ever charged and rarely go to jail for their crimes!

How often is wayyy too often? Less than it happens today.

It’s not the city of NY that is playing around “getting even” It’s individual cops and even you would have to admit, it’s happening more and more often.


71 posted on 08/03/2014 8:13:37 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
And MRAP’s have what to do with this incident?

We're all surprised that there wasn't one involved, what with the dangerous tax-evadin' and general defiance of authoritay going on....

72 posted on 08/03/2014 8:17:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

did they prove he didn’t pay taxes on those cigarettes?


73 posted on 08/03/2014 8:20:05 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cap'n Crunch

I don’t know that anyone placed a gun on this guy. Just like you don’t know that they didn’t.


74 posted on 08/03/2014 8:21:07 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: GeronL

I think it may have been a preventative measure...


75 posted on 08/03/2014 8:26:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Cap'n Crunch; kiryandil
And MRAP’s have what to do with this incident?

Patterns of tactics, show of power, motives which include militarization of law enforcement, patterns of control, control techniques, to show the general population not to get out of line or else, witness intimidation, control through force, intimidation and prosecution of those who fail to conform, prosecution and surveillance of those who fail to get in line or cause problems and issues, etc....

76 posted on 08/03/2014 8:31:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kiryandil

I read your post a few times. It is barely on topic.


77 posted on 08/03/2014 8:37:28 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: WTFOVR
"Yes, and how convenient that the NYC cops did not seek his arrest until AFTER he videoed one of their “finest” committing an, at best, questionable, and at worst, illegal act. Funny the timing of that circumstance."

It may be convenient, but if he broke the law he cannot complain. The police are not obligated to let someone break laws because it might look convenient.

"His past record notwithstanding, his present circumstance neither diminishes nor abrogates the act he captured and publicly exposed."

I agree. It stands on its merits.

The rest of your comments fall within "broad brush" accusations, so I'll pass.

78 posted on 08/03/2014 8:45:04 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Leaning Right; Cap'n Crunch
"But here's one thing I would bet on: the cops knew who Orta was, and his connect to the video. And so they were following him around, hoping to get in a little payback.

I would like to see a defense attorney use that line of reasoning in front of a jury.

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury. My client shot a video of cops making an arrest. Later, the cops followed my client around and he went into a known drug house. When he came out they contacted him and found him is possession of drugs and a gun. The only reason they arrested him was for payback. The defense rests."

79 posted on 08/03/2014 8:54:34 PM PDT by Respond Code Three (Support Free Republic lest we eventually get a Republic which is not free.)
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To: Respond Code Three
Well then, how about this from the hypothetical defense attorney:

"I will call a statistician to the stand who will tell you that the chances of someone with Mr. Orta's record being arrested in any given week is approximately 5%. Yet he was arrested within one week of shooting a video that embarrassed the NYPD."

Now, does that statement clear Mr. Orta? Not at all! If he was found with a gun, then he was fun with a gun, and off to jail he should go.

But the ods should cast deep suspicion on just what the NYPD is up to.

80 posted on 08/03/2014 9:14:39 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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