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To: nickcarraway

I just find this guy’s story hard to get my mind around.

She’s banging on the door, I get that.

But he finds his gun, but not his phone? That seems sort of silly, doesn’t it?

And then, he opens the door and just BLAM! shoots the person in the face.

I mean, he opened the door, she didn’t open it.

If you are afraid of who is on the other side of the door, why do you open it? And it’s a steel door? A person is not really going to be able to break down a steel door.

I don’t know what was up with this man, but I think he showed very poor judgment.


7 posted on 08/06/2014 3:17:38 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I agree. Basically, he shot a little girl when she knocked at his door because he was afraid that if he didn’t, he might have to “cower” (his word). Even if his story is accepted as true, he seems to be attempting to cope with a level of fear that renders him unreasonably dangerous to others. He shouldn’t be running around loose.


8 posted on 08/06/2014 3:26:22 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: jocon307

But he finds his gun, but not his phone? That seems sort of silly, doesn’t it?


I sincerely wish that some day you will wake up in the dead of night, lights off and someone apparently making sounds like they are trying to break into your house.

If you had any common sense at all the first thing on your mind would be to PROTECT YOURSELF....NOT MAKE A TELEPHONE CALL! In your case, I doubt that for that requires common sense.

Earlier this year I had someone bang on my door about 2am and the first thing I did was grab the pistol I have beside my bed, walk up to my front door, open it and stick the pistol right up his “snot locker” before asking any questions at all. Then we had a conversation and found out he was a neighbor who needed to report that my handicapped son (who lived 5 blocks away) had fallen down and the police and ambulance services was over at my house and he did not have my telephone number.

If he had continued to try to force his way in, I would have blown him away without any hesitation.

The point of this story is that:

1. When seconds count don’t call the police for they will be there within a matter of minutes while you only have seconds to protect yourself. See what the problem is FIRST and then call the cops. If needed, use lethal force if necessary.

2. ALWAYS arm yourself FIRST and not with a cell or telephone. Time is of the essence!

3. Don’t ever believe that the “justice system” is blind for it is only color blind.


17 posted on 08/06/2014 3:59:12 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: jocon307
But he finds his gun, but not his phone? That seems sort of silly, doesn’t it?

Silly would be looking for a phone and not your gun when someone is banging on your door.

If he finds his phone and not his gun, and a perp breaks in and kills him, the cops put a chalk line around his body, that would be silly.

19 posted on 08/06/2014 4:08:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: jocon307
If you are afraid of who is on the other side of the door, why do you open it?

No kidding. Many years ago, I was awakened by loud knocking on my door around 3am. It was a 3rd floor apartment, so there was no option of leaving. It was pretty unnerving.

I had my weapon and took a defensive position near the bathroom while I called the police. Turned out, there was a call for a domestic dispute in the complex and they had the wrong building.

Fortunately, despite being justifiably afraid, I had enough sense not to open the door and start blasting.

20 posted on 08/06/2014 4:13:28 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: jocon307
But he finds his gun, but not his phone? That seems sort of silly, doesn’t it?

Reading posts like this makes me hope I never have to face a jury in a situation like this. I have four guns within reach of my bed; I have no clue where my phone is typically, and when I get woken up in the middle of the night by my dog going crazy, I am downstairs in full tactical mode before I am even conciously aware of being awake. If someone was breaking into my house it would be pure adrenaline and musclue memory... I would never even consider looking for my phone in any situation like this, it just wouldn't occur to me. I'd grab a gun, and take down the threat. From a reasoned perspective, it still doesn't make sense to find a phone. I grew up in a very rural area, and did my time in the Army, and learned early to take care of myself with no reason for the government; if I call the cops it just creates greater risk for everyone involved.

30 posted on 08/06/2014 4:54:19 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: jocon307
You make some good points, but how long does it take law enforcement to respond to a call in that area? If the homeowner had a reason to believe that response time would be too long, it's more understandable that he wanted to confront the danger and eliminate it as quickly as possible.

A steel door can probably be kicked open by a relatively strong person if the door frame and hinges are weak.

I can't imagine, with what facts have been presented so far, of convicting this man of anything more severe than involuntary manslaughter.

47 posted on 08/06/2014 7:47:17 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jocon307

“If you are afraid of who is on the other side of the door, why do you open it?”

Because I have some responsibility to investigate what is happening on my property. And if it sounds weird, I’m going to have a gun with me when I do it.

I can’t speak to what this guy did next, but if she was zonked out of her mind and screaming like a banshee...


55 posted on 08/06/2014 11:58:47 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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