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How Wall Street Tobacco Deals Left States With Billions in Toxic Debt
ProPublica ^ | August 8, 2014 | Cezary Podkul

Posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:54 AM PDT by C19fan

In November 1998, attorneys general from across the country sealed a historic deal with the tobacco industry to pay for the health care costs of smoking. Going forward, nearly every cigarette sold would provide money to the states, territories and other governments involved 2014 more than $200 billion in just the first 25 years of a legal settlement that required payments to be made in perpetuity.

Then, Wall Street came knocking with an offer many state and local politicians found irresistible: Cash upfront for those governments willing to trade investors the right to some or all of their tobacco payments. State after state struck deals that critics derided as "payday loans" but proponents deemed only prudent. As designed, private investors 2014 not the taxpayers 2014 would take the hit if people smoked less and the tobacco money fell short.

Things haven't exactly worked out as planned.

A ProPublica analysis of more than 100 tobacco deals since the settlement found that they are creating new fiscal headaches for states, driving some into bailouts or threatening to increase the cost of borrowing in the future.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: securization; settlement; tobacco
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A lot of states securitized the tobacco settlement money taking the decades of future cash flows as a lump sum. Looks like the assumptions behind these securities were faulty leaving the states on the hook. I think states/municipalities unless issuing boring normal bonds should keep away from exotic securities like this and interest rate swaps that have also blown up. As it seems with everything Wall Street made out like a bandit.
1 posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:54 AM PDT by C19fan
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Yes and all those anti-smoking programs “for the children” that the money was to pay for are all working just fine, I’m sure


2 posted on 08/08/2014 6:39:34 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: C19fan; Gabz

Ping!


3 posted on 08/08/2014 6:39:39 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Bummer. Sucks to be associated with those cancer sticks.


4 posted on 08/08/2014 6:41:29 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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"These securities, called capital appreciation bonds, or CABs, have since turned toxic. They amount to only a $3 billion sliver of the approximately $36 billion in tobacco bonds outstanding, according to a review of bond documents and Thomson Reuters data. But the nine states, three territories, District of Columbia and several counties that issued them have promised a whopping $64 billion to pay them off."

Wow! You'd have to be a government to be this stupid.

5 posted on 08/08/2014 6:45:34 AM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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Public official who issue CABs should be thrown in jail. There was some school district that issues a CAB to raise $100 MM for schools with the balloon something on the order of $3 Billion.


6 posted on 08/08/2014 6:48:12 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: TimSkalaBim

‘swhy some people go to work for government...


7 posted on 08/08/2014 6:48:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Drango
Bummer. Sucks to be associated with those cancer sticks.


8 posted on 08/08/2014 6:48:55 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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Why on earth did any gov’t (county, state, federal) decide it had responsibility for anyone’s health care? That was the stupid move. People make bad choices & should have to deal with the consequences. This was never a place for gov’t involvement.


9 posted on 08/08/2014 6:50:49 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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private investors 2014 not the taxpayers 2014 would take the hit

2018Wow, I can't believe that

And states can't simply walk away from the debt 2014 bondholders have a right to further tobacco payments even after a default.

Who in the hell proofreads this crap?

10 posted on 08/08/2014 6:51:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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It other words politicians got greedy and lost most of the money.


11 posted on 08/08/2014 6:52:57 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Maybe they can use the money to run ads to encourage more smoking.


12 posted on 08/08/2014 6:54:40 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Goofy financial “deals” need a “claw back” provision. If the absurd assumptions that the bonds were sold under, don’t pan out, the government entity should receive the underwriting fees paid out back.


13 posted on 08/08/2014 6:58:16 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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14 posted on 08/08/2014 7:06:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Are the “Wall Street” banks the same banks that own the Fed Reserve?


15 posted on 08/08/2014 7:08:15 AM PDT by huldah1776
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>>As it seems with everything Wall Street made out like a bandit. <<
Only fools make complex deals with people who are far smarter than them, and a track record of shady dealings.

I would not be surprized if politcians got paid off to agree to the deals.


16 posted on 08/08/2014 7:12:04 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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Bummer. Sucks to be associated with those cancer sticks.

It doesn't suck for the Wall Street Bankers. It doesn't suck for the investors. It doesn't suck for the state legislators that bought your vote with the upfront money. Who does it suck for?

17 posted on 08/08/2014 7:19:08 AM PDT by Wingy
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States and counties and cities are even worse than the Federal government with financializing everything from fence posts to parking meters. And taking on way more debt than they can service.

Debt, debt, debt will be our ruin.
Detroit is only the canary.


18 posted on 08/08/2014 7:19:23 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The money wasn’t lost, it was used very valuable for the polticians. It was used to buy votes during some election or another....


19 posted on 08/08/2014 7:29:26 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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Wall Street doesn’t come calling to help you, it comes to **** you.


20 posted on 08/08/2014 7:32:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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