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1 posted on 08/17/2014 4:50:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“What’s the price of perfect equality?”

“In the long run, we are all dead.”


2 posted on 08/17/2014 4:51:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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The following pursues the idea of equality in a republic, as published in The Founders' Constitution.

Nathaniel Chipman, Sketches of the Principles of Government 177--82

Volume 1, Chapter 15, Document 51

Of the Nature of Equality in Republics.

Some of the most eminent writers on government, have supposed an equality of property, as well as of rights to be necessary in a republic. They have, therefore, prescribed limits to individual acquisition. The Reason given is, that riches give power to those who possess them, and that those who possess power, will always abuse it to the oppression of others. If this be a good reason for limiting the acquisition of riches, there is equal reason for limiting the improvement of bodily strength and mental abilities. Such a step would be an abridgement of the primary rights of man, and counteract almost all the laws of his nature. It would, perhaps, could it be reduced to practice, place the whole human race in a state of fearless quietude; but it would be a state of tasteless enjoyment, of stupid inactivity, not to be envied by the lowest tribes of the animal creation.

If such be the principles of a republican government, it is a government out of nature. Those have made a wiser choice, who have submitted to the less tyrannical principles of absolute monarchy. These are not the principles of a republic. They are the principles of anarchy, and of popular tyranny.

We have just now enquired into the nature of equality among men, and have seen in what it consists; a free and equal enjoyment of the primary rights, which are, the intellectual rights, and the right which men have of using their powers and faculties, under certain reciprocal modifications, for their own convenience and happiness. The equality necessary in a republic, requires nothing more, than this equality of primary rights. I shall here instance in the right of acquisition only, as being sufficient for my present purpose.

To the security of this right, certain regulations, as to the modes and conditions of enjoying the secondary rights, or in other words, of holding property, are necessary. Not, indeed, as to the quantity, but the freedom of acquisition, use, and disposal. To give to any individual, or class of men, a monopoly, an exclusive right of acquisition in those things, which nature has made the subjects of property, to perpetuate, and render them unalienable in their hands, is an exclusion of the rights of others. It is a violation of the equal rights of man. Of this nature are all exclusive privileges; all perpetuities of riches and honor, and all the pretended rights of primogeniture. Inequality of property, in the possession of individuals, is not directly, nor by inevitable consequence, subversive of genuine liberty. Those laws are, indeed, subversive of liberty, which, by establishing perpetuities, deprive the owner of a right of disposal, and others, so far as they extend, of the right of acquisition; which annex privileges to property, and by making it a qualification in government, create a powerful aristocracy.

Riches are the fruit of industry. Honor the fruit of merit. Both ought, as to their continuance, and the influence which attends them, to be left to the conduct of the possessor. If a man, who, by industry and economy, has acquired riches, become indolent, or profligate, let him sink into poverty. Let those who are still industrious and economical, succeed to his enjoyments, as to their just reward. If a man, who, by noble and virtuous actions, has acquired honor, the esteem of mankind, will behave infamously, let him sink into contempt. To exclude the meritorious from riches and honors, and to perpetuate either to the undeserving, are equally injurious to the rights of man in society. In both it is to counteract the laws of nature, which have, by the connection of cause and effect, annexed the proper rewards and punishments to the actions of men. Wealth, or at least, a competency, is the reward, provided by the laws of nature, for prudent industry; want, the punishment of idleness and profligacy.

If we make equality of property necessary in a society, we must employ force, against both the industrious and the indolent. On the one hand, the industrious must be restrained, from every exertion, which may exceed the power, or inclination of common capacities; on the other hand, the indolent must be forcibly stimulated to common exertions. This would be acting the fable of Procrustes, who, by stretching, or lopping to his iron bedstead, would reduce every man to his own standard length.

If this method should be deemed ineligible, the only alternative will be, either by open violence, or the secret fraud of the law, to turn a certain portion of the well-earned acquisitions of the vigilant and industrious, to the use of the indolent and neglectful.

Let us not, in a Republic, attempt the extreme of equality: It verges on the extreme of tyranny. Guarantee to every man, the full enjoyment of his natural rights. Banish all exclusive privileges; all perpetuities of riches and honors. Leave free the acquisition and disposal of property to supply the occasions of the owner, and to answer all claims of right, both of the society, and of individuals. To give a stimulus to industry, to provide solace and assistance, in the last helpless stages of life, and a reward for the attentions of humanity, confirm to the owner the power of directing, who shall succeed to his right of property after his death; but let it be without any limitation, or restraint upon the future use, or disposal. Divert not the consequences of actions, as to the individual actors, from their proper course. Let no preference be given to any one in government, but what his conduct can secure, from the sentiments of his fellow citizens. Of property, left to the disposal of the law, let a descent from parents to children, in equal portions, be held a sacred principle of the constitution. Secure but these, and every thing will flow in the channel intended by nature. The operation of the equal laws of nature, tend to exclude, or correct every dangerous excess.

Thus industry will be excited; arts will flourish, and virtuous conduct meet its just reward, the esteem and confidence of mankind. Am I deceived? or are these the true principles of equality in a democratic republic? Principles, which will secure its prosperity, and, if any thing in this stage of existence can be durable, its perpetual duration.

The Founders' Constitution
Volume 1, Chapter 15, Document 51
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s51.html
The University of Chicago Press

3 posted on 08/17/2014 4:53:35 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Perfect equality ban only be achieved via the equal distribution of abject misery.


4 posted on 08/17/2014 5:01:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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Kurt Vonnegut wrote a brilliant short story called “Harrison Bergeron”. It was about the USA of the future where everyone was finally equal. It was achieved by bringing everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Anyone with any ability or talent had to wear “handicaps” to mitigate it.

A short but good read—highly recommended.


6 posted on 08/17/2014 5:07:39 PM PDT by rbg81
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When the democrats take full control they will bring true equality:

The fleet of foot will have to wear leg irons

The well spoken will have their tongues split

The intelligent will undergo a compulsory frontal lobotomy

The keen of eyesight will have their eyesight surgically diminished

The agile will have their bones broken

The attractive will be disfigured

The light skinned will have their skin chemically darkened


7 posted on 08/17/2014 5:07:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Why democrats are like spermatozoa: Only one in a million work.)
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As usual, ‘The Atlantic’ propagandist gets it wrong at the outset. Never in the history of the world have so many poor people had it so good. The worst situations of misery in the world are the result of political arrangements, and are in no way caused by those who happen to be better off honestly accumulating wealth.


8 posted on 08/17/2014 5:11:00 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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As long as there is inequality of ambition there will always be inequality of outcome.

Not everyone aspires to be a CEO.


10 posted on 08/17/2014 5:12:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Jonas ultimately runs away because he discovers that the community’s solution for babies who might fail to thrive is lethal injection.

Might fail to thrive? No, children of over one year who cry or have other annoying habits are "released".

Any mistake by adult or child that is deemed of great enough annoyance will end with them being "released".

It is an oatmeal world where everything is bland.

13 posted on 08/17/2014 5:20:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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14 posted on 08/17/2014 5:26:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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“A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both.”-Milton Friedman


19 posted on 08/17/2014 5:43:41 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Never do anything against conscience, even if the State demands it." -Albert Einstein)
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Slavery.


22 posted on 08/17/2014 5:54:15 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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The price of perfect equality is that people are worth nothing.


26 posted on 08/17/2014 6:18:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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What Is the Price of Perfect Equality?

There is no such thing! Even animals have a pecking order!

28 posted on 08/17/2014 7:46:51 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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Completely Regulated Equality is Communism.

Partially regulated Equality is Socialism.

The problem with regulating anything is that the Regulators are more equal than those they Regulate.

For example: Labor Unions, EPA; DOJ. NSA, IRS, etc.


30 posted on 08/17/2014 8:02:45 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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What Is the Price of Perfect Equality? Bare subsistence economy is the price as Perfect Equality comes at less than functional ́80 IQ.
31 posted on 08/17/2014 8:22:09 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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