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Cedar Falls Conversion Ban Passes
Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier ^ | 8/18/2014 | Mike Anderson

Posted on 08/30/2014 8:07:47 AM PDT by campg

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The Nanny State is alive and well in Iowa. You can not trust market forces any longer. Property Rights and the 14th amendment can be suspended if it serves social engineers, college professors and elites. The Bureaucracy grows, taxes increase and freedom dwindles and the rights of property owners are taken away on a 6-1 vote.
1 posted on 08/30/2014 8:07:47 AM PDT by campg
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This is about Section 8 housing and how the feral government uses it to import welfare/Democrat voters into conservative strongholds.

There are no legitimate "market forces" when the US feral government is pulling the strings.

2 posted on 08/30/2014 8:13:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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That sheds a different light on the problem. A video was posted on FR some months ago about a home that was utterly destroyed by a section 8 tenant. Such destruction impacts
the value of nearby properties. Those property owners have rights too. I say that as one who is renting out my family home.


3 posted on 08/30/2014 8:25:43 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“This is about Section 8 housing “

We have a winner.


4 posted on 08/30/2014 8:29:03 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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The Unspeakable Blackness of Section 8 and Crime

As Program Moves Poor to Suburbs, Tensions Follow

American Murder Mystery

5 posted on 08/30/2014 8:53:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bingo!

Too many rental properties = ghetto in a couple years!


6 posted on 08/30/2014 9:05:53 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: campg

Years ago, when we sold our house in town to a ner-do-well couple, one of the first things she told her kids was...”Now don’t tear this place up! We own THIS house.”

I went by it not long ago. It is the sore thumb of that neighborhood.

A friend in California rented his house to a family. When they left, the house was trashed. He found the toilet was stopped up, so that family had knocked a hole in the closet floor and used the crawl space beneath as a pit toilet.

Then there was the people near here who rented apartments. One day one of the tenants was arrested and is in jail. The owners had to bring in a roll off trash container as the house was full of trash. All the drywall had to be removed, and basically rebuilt from the ground up.

Some people are just “White-Trash”. (Opps! Is that racis?)


7 posted on 08/30/2014 9:06:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
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So your solution is to remove property owner rights?

How conservative. NOT.

/johnny

8 posted on 08/30/2014 9:09:43 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Where did I say that? Straw man much?


9 posted on 08/30/2014 9:10:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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So what is your solution to the 'problem' as you see it?

/johnny

10 posted on 08/30/2014 9:13:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Stable owner occupied homes means the area isn’t likely to turn into a ghetto soon. That is just a fact.

If an area has too many rental units in relation to owner occupied homes, the property values will crash. That is also a fact.

Property rights also extend to those that don’t want section 8 to turn their neighborhood into a ghetto.

I refuse to live in or close to any city, or anywhere that has public transportation for exactly that reason.


11 posted on 08/30/2014 9:27:20 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I hope there was a lawsuit to collect damages and a big deposit to recoup some losses. Being a Landlord/property owner can be such fun and full of enrichment;-) and yes that was racist. Shame on you.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 9:54:10 PM PDT by campg
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The danger with zoning laws is that gives the property rights to the government. I have seen some rather horrid zoning laws banning everything from the color of the door to the house to how many children a family may have (yes, that was a zoning law, not a HOA code).

While I understand not wanting to import the ghetto, taking away property rights of the owners is a very dangerous precedent.


13 posted on 08/31/2014 6:28:20 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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“The danger with zoning laws is that gives the property rights to the government.”

I can see restrictions on the number of rental unit properties in a city/neighborhood, and don’t see it as taking property rights.

If it’s a single family home, you can live in it, sell it, or rent it.

What you couldn’t do is buy up a bunch of big old houses and make 2-3 apartments in each one. All that does is create section 8 ghetto.

Redlining is illegal and so is refusing section 8, the only option left is limiting rental units, or giving up and letting the ghetto take over.


14 posted on 08/31/2014 8:08:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Section 8 means it ain’t a free market anymore.


15 posted on 08/31/2014 8:13:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Over a 20 year period I watched one particular nice, new-ish apartment complex become a stereotypical Section 8 dump. Some of the neighbors eagerly anticipate the day when one of the pest control services - which frequently fog the place in a losing battle with bedbugs and roaches - accidentally ignites the place. Trouble is, the government will just find new landlords to assist in the metastasis.

Mr. niteowl77

16 posted on 08/31/2014 8:37:53 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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I know. The liberals blame Detoilet on whites for moving out. They are admitting to being parasites, but blaming the hosts for avoiding them.


17 posted on 08/31/2014 8:46:29 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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“I refuse to live in or close to any city, or anywhere that has public transportation for exactly that reason.”


That is bull****.

Some of the priciest towns in my area,Eastern Ma,are much in demand because of the public transportation.

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18 posted on 08/31/2014 8:52:42 AM PDT by Mears
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Live in some craphole city if you want. Ride a bus with seats covered with diseases they don’t even have names for yet. Enjoy your liberal ghetto.


19 posted on 08/31/2014 10:01:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

Your last sentence nailed it.

We no longer have the right to free association.

When I lived in a large US city, there was an interesting way around it. I lived in a complex where you had to have a recommendation to get into. Since I didn’t know that, or any place to live, I went to a relocation specialist my company set up for me.

I didn’t notice it at first, but that system worked rather well.


20 posted on 08/31/2014 10:51:20 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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