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The Trouble Is that Obama DOES Have a Strategy
PJ Media's Spengler ^ | August 29, 2014 | David P. Goldman

Posted on 08/30/2014 10:19:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 08/30/2014 10:19:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we are not fighting for that stinking Saudi monarchy ever again, the writer can forget that foolishness


2 posted on 08/30/2014 10:29:57 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“Onward, Christian Soldiers.”


3 posted on 08/30/2014 10:36:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: yldstrk

Frickin right.


4 posted on 08/30/2014 10:39:40 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: yldstrk

I stated here a long time ago that under 0bama the Caliphate would come to fruition. We are f&&&&ked


5 posted on 08/30/2014 10:40:42 PM PDT by harwood (You don't wanna go there.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The progressives WILL liquidate the poor ISIS and most all muslims eventually..
BUT they are very useful presently.. same with most political liberals..

The progressives ARE NOT LIBERAL.... never have been..
They are demagogues.. enough to make even the muslims blush..

The multi millions murdered by them last century and the billions made miserable.. are a drop in the bucket..

A hard rain is fixin’ to fall..


6 posted on 08/30/2014 10:40:54 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
7 posted on 08/30/2014 10:47:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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>> The progressives ARE NOT LIBERAL.... never have been..

You are absolutely correct. But unfortunately, Liberals don’t seem to mind going along for the ride to Hell.


8 posted on 08/30/2014 10:48:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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It may be entirely academic to argue that America should bomb not only ISIS, but also Iran’s nuclear facilities and the bases of its Revolutionary Guards. No Republican candidate I know is willing to argue this in advance of elections. Nonetheless, I repeat what I wrote Aug. 12: “The region’s security will hinge on the ultimate reckoning with Iran.”

9 posted on 08/30/2014 10:49:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Now we have analysts as diverse as Karen Elliott House and Angelo Codevilla proposing that the Saudis should use their considerable air force to degrade ISIS. Unless the U.S. commits its own forces in depth, the Saudis never will do so (unless they are defending their own territory, which ISIS is not stupid enough to attack).
Huh? If ISIS were operating in the south of Iraq instead of the north, they'd have already raided across the Saudi border, killing thousands, destroying pipelines, and setting oil fields on fire. As usual, 'Spengler' has no idea what he's writing about.
10 posted on 08/30/2014 10:53:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s frustrating that people get paid to write this rubbish! Especially when a lot of us home pundits were questioning the Arab Spring and the wisdom of creating a vacuum in the Middle East, who was getting supplied with weapons and to what end, over 3 years ago. There has been a plan from the beginning whether this is actually what they wanted or whether they wanted something different and this is a result of the Obama administration’s stupidity and arrogance is too hard to tell. Either way this promises to be an absolute disaster. If Obama was a Republican the Dems would be calling for his head on a platter.


11 posted on 08/30/2014 10:54:21 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Gene Eric

Liberals aren’t liberal but they now prefer the name Progressives because they have tainted the name Liberal. That’s the main reason I always call them Liberals. When Progressive is sufficiently tainted I might start calling them that.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 10:59:28 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: deadrock

no chit


13 posted on 08/30/2014 11:05:14 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These Sunni and Shia, can we get them to fight with each other more and us less?


14 posted on 08/30/2014 11:06:50 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Which Sunni? The Turks are Sunni, the Kurds are Sunni? Arabs are Sunni of Shia.


15 posted on 08/30/2014 11:14:41 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could you and others here please explain how that liar, fraud, and obvious incompetent Obama was elected not once but twice to be President of the United States? I don't get it.

This is a scary thought: I believe that Obama would be voted into office for a third term if he could run again, even after we learned about Obama government scandals and foreign policy mistakes Obama has made over and over this past year alone.

16 posted on 08/30/2014 11:29:36 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: SunkenCiv
Huh? If ISIS were operating in the south of Iraq instead of the north, they'd have already raided across the Saudi border, killing thousands, destroying pipelines, and setting oil fields on fire. As usual, 'Spengler' has no idea what he's writing about.

He writes well, but his predictions have been off base more often than not. People who rag on the royals don't understand that they are the moderates, that they keep a lid on tens of millions of fanatically-zealous subjects who will depose them if they step out of line. The Israelis and neocons keep going on and on about the royals spreading Islamist propaganda. It's BS. They finance missionary work because it's their concession towards religiosity for the Saudi masses - it's boob bait for Ali. These subjects don't need imams to tell them what to do. They're not illiterates - they can read the world of Allah for themselves. No imam has the authority to countermand the decrees of Allah as set out in the Koran, and any imam who does so literally has a target on his back. Imams have been killed for deviating from the Koran.

17 posted on 08/30/2014 11:39:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The agitprop about the Saudi royals comes entirely from the the pro-Russia/Putin/Iran/Syria shills.

The 3000 corrupt princes (term from Ari Sharon) love their lifestyle of the rich and infamous, but they aren’t the only ones in the kingdom who have money. Cash for jihad against the late USSR was largely contributed by Gulf State billionaires, including those ruled by the royals. Most of the volunteers for the 9/11 mass murders came from Saudi Arabia.

In S.Arabia the wahhabists are independent of the gov’t. Until they got concessions from the House of Saud, they wouldn’t condemn the self-appointed mahdi during that late-1970s standoff at the Great Mosque. Practice of religions other than Islam is prohibited, and the largish Shia minority live almost entirely in the Saudi oil patch.

When the lid blows off — could be this year, could be fifty years from now — the only US priority will be to secure the oil patch, relocating the entire local population if need be. I read somewhere that the House of Saud started a large project during the late 1970s or early 1980s to build new housing for just such a relocation, in order to move the Shiites out of the oil patch and move in the foreign labor necessary to keep everything running, a sort of proactive approach.

When Saddam invaded Iran, starting a massively costly eight year long war which ended with no gains for either side, the housing project was shut down (if indeed it ever broke ground) because of the cost of the war. When Saddam turned around in 1989 and invaded Kuwait (the first time; apparently it was practice for the real thing, regardless the Kuwaitis paid him off to leave) it was seen as a betrayal of the very people who bankrolled his pyrrhic defeat.

And when the Gulf War started, there were so many foreign troops along the border that the Shia minority remained quiet.


18 posted on 08/30/2014 11:58:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: john mirse

fraud pure and simple


19 posted on 08/31/2014 12:01:07 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: john mirse

Soros counts the votes.


20 posted on 08/31/2014 12:22:51 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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