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Arming Ukraine could lead to nuclear war: Lech Walesa
France24 ^ | 9-2-2014 | AFP

Posted on 09/02/2014 12:25:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: Buckeye McFrog

Not arming Ukraine leaves a hostile Imperial Russia right on Polands border.


21 posted on 09/02/2014 1:20:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

I am of the opinion that DIS-ARMING Ukraine was an international crime .... and who traveled to the Ukraine to convince them to disarm? Yep, you got it - Obama.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573557/Flashback-Senator-Obama-pushed-destruction-15-000-TONS-ammunition-400-000-small-arms-1-000-anti-aircraft-missiles-Ukraine.html


22 posted on 09/02/2014 1:42:23 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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‘I am of the opinion that DIS-ARMING Ukraine was an international crime .... and who traveled to the Ukraine to convince them to disarm? Yep, you got it - Obama.’

From the article:

“More than a year later, President George W. Bush signed into law a proposal authored by Obama and Lugar.”

You forgot to mention that GW signed the law.


23 posted on 09/02/2014 1:52:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Samogon; All

“the conflict would be over quickly and decisively, with Moscow smoldering”

Along with Europe and most of the Northern Hemisphere.

Are we so far removed from the reality of the Cold War that we have forgotten that there can be no such thing as a “Limited” Nuclear War, once the missiles start flying?


24 posted on 09/02/2014 1:57:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: taxcontrol

Was that the trip where Zero was detained by the authorities because there was some kind of problem with his papers? He was with Lugar when that happened. I’d love to know the details behind that adventure.


25 posted on 09/02/2014 1:59:57 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Nowhere Man

What is it about libs that can’t understand that US having nukes = Good. Russia, or China or Iran or anyone else having nukes =Bad?

Thinking we can make ourselves vulnerable to the world to make some sort of peace statement which will lead in everyone else disarming will only result in our demise by the Putins of the world...

If we give up any more nukes in new treaties, especially if unilateral will signal to the world we believe we are the new Nevell Chamberlain, only we believe it will work this time.

And if with another treaty, keep in mind at these lower levels cheating will result in a much more dramatic relative advantage, and Russia/USSR has cheated on EVERY treaty it has signed.

The very concept of “minimum deterrence” is flawed. The notion that you will have only the bare minimum to deter your enemies only encourages them to cheat or beat by any other means to defeat the deterrent. It invites an attack based on when the potential enemy thinks the deterrent is below minimum to prevent defeat by technology, cheating, or deception, and could cause disastrous miscalculation.
It would be better for us to maintain weapon levels that leave absolutely no question that at the very least, the potential attacker cannot win, and that any post attack correlation of forces does not favor them. Obama will never understand that.


26 posted on 09/02/2014 2:03:37 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And he shares blame as well.


27 posted on 09/02/2014 2:05:53 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Nowhere Man

That’s okay, they nabbed me for that very thing (Russian linguist) in 1982. Fun and interesting 6 years, 4 in Alaska. There are a couple of us on here.


28 posted on 09/02/2014 6:32:15 PM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: tcrlaf

Old fool must be off his pills again.


29 posted on 09/03/2014 2:05:07 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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