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I don't know if his plan is good or not, because having the Justice Deparment transfer the duties would put even more power into the demonic hands of Eric Holder or other evildoers of his ilk. Why not simply eliminate the duties of the ATF entirely, and have all of its employees executed for treason?
1 posted on 09/17/2014 1:34:38 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator
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Pour the alphabet soup down the sewer of outdated $hit. That goes for every letter.


2 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:35 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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The ATF was primarily a tax collection agency until the GCA of 1968. When they expanded it to regulating guns, they screwed up.


3 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Kill the ATF.


4 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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I heard the ATFE should be a convenience store and not a government agency.


5 posted on 09/17/2014 1:37:38 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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Then he can close IRS, TSA, DHS, EPA, DoE, HHS, and oh....the list goes on forever.

Maybe keep the DoD. Rename it back to its old name: War Department.

Might as well be honest.


6 posted on 09/17/2014 1:38:15 PM PDT by Regulator
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In this economy, isn’t that what unemployment is?


7 posted on 09/17/2014 1:39:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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How was this thing formed anyway? Was there a problem with people who like to drink, smoke , shoot and blow stuff up?


8 posted on 09/17/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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Isn’t it an old joke that Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm’s should be the name of a convenience store, not a government agency!


9 posted on 09/17/2014 1:41:31 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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Felonies for EVERY illegally kept Form 4473.

Defund and disband, discontinue the duties.


12 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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ATF’s responsibilities need to be checked against Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers. I suspect that ATF does things that cannot be justified under Section 8.


13 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:38 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Back in the 1970s, Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) coined the term “jackbooted thugs” for the ATF. He and others wanted to dissolve ATF and five its duties to the FBI. The thing that killed the bill was not one federal agency wanted to take the ex-ATF agents, so low were their abilities regarded.
14 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:46 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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Why transfer the responsibility to Justice Dept????

Why can’t Congress just decide what the function of a new ATF would be - or what stays and what goes? Isn’t that Congress’ job?


18 posted on 09/17/2014 1:50:21 PM PDT by PGR88
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So it’s started. I tell you, folks, if the GOP takes the Senate, funding bills are going to get interesting.

First of all, I think you’ll see the end of the Continuing Resolution in favor of individual spending bills.

And if Obama doesn’t go along, just don’t fund the agency at all. It’s hard to veto a bill that he doesn’t get, but no funding bill, no money. How hard would it be to see the ATF shut down completely for lack of funding? Or the Department of Education? Or the EPA? Or Valerie Jarrett’s secret service detail?

Congress has the power of the purse, and that power is significant. I’m betting that Boehner and McConnell will use it in some very creative, and currently unanticipated, ways.

Besides, I’ve had my current tagline for years now, and it’s about time someone tried implementing it.


19 posted on 09/17/2014 1:51:51 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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“I don’t know if his plan is good or not, because having the Justice Deparment transfer the duties would put even more power into the demonic hands of Eric Holder or other evildoers of his ilk. Why not simply eliminate the duties of the ATF entirely, and have all of its employees executed for treason?

A CAPITAL idea! Turn them over to ISIL!


21 posted on 09/17/2014 1:54:06 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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In Pennsylvania back in the 1990’s then Republican Governor Tom Ridge campaigned on the notion that the agency regulating the environment was not organized properly and he gave it a new name.

It didn’t stop the environmental regulation, just gave it a new name.


27 posted on 09/17/2014 2:06:01 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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Eliminate ATF. Repeal all regulations they have created and laws created to enable them. If there are product recalls due to manufacturing defects, the Consumer Product Safety Commission can add them to their website. The rest of the regulations are just harassment.
28 posted on 09/17/2014 2:06:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Why stop there? How about the EPA, too?

And the Department of Education.

For starters.


32 posted on 09/17/2014 2:19:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Actions speak louder than words.I’m all for it.

I just wonder if the rest of the Republican politico’s agree.


41 posted on 09/17/2014 2:55:14 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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Well my name’s John Lee Pettimore
Same as my Daddy and his Daddy before
You hardly ever saw grandaddy down here
He only come to town about twice a year
He’d buy a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper line.

Everybody knew that he made moonshine
Now the revenue man wanted grandad bad
He headed up the holler with everything he had
‘fore my time but I’ve been told
He never come back from Copperhead Road.

Steve Earl-”Copperhead Road”

How they dealt with BATFE back in the day.


42 posted on 09/17/2014 2:56:31 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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I like the idea of dissolving ATF, particularly if they repeal a few major federal gun laws at the same time. There should be no restrictions at all on silencers, and there should be no tax stamp and no yearlong delay for fully automatic firearms or short-barreled rifles/shotguns.


44 posted on 09/17/2014 3:01:13 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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