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Missouri Judge Side With Married Same-Sex Couples
ABC News ^ | October 3, 2014 | By BILL DRAPER

Posted on 10/03/2014 3:36:18 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A judge struck down part of Missouri's gay marriage ban for the first time on Friday by ordering the state to recognize same-sex marriages legally performed in other states, saying state laws banning the unions single out gay couples "for no logical reason."

The order means such couples will be eligible to sign up for a wide range of tax, health insurance, veterans and other benefits now afforded to opposite-sex married couples.

The decision comes in a lawsuit filed by 10 same-sex couples who legally married outside the state, including Arlene Zarembka and Zuleyma Tang-Martinez. The St. Louis couple, who married in Canada, said Friday's ruling could boost their household income, and they plan to apply Monday for Zarembka to receive Social Security benefits as Tang-Martinez's spouse.

"To me, it's a real validation by the judge of our relationship and our commitment to each other," Tang-Martinez said.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which is helping the couples, noted the ruling was a first in the state.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; missouri

1 posted on 10/03/2014 3:36:18 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
no logical reason

Fool would not recognize a "logical reason" if it bit him in the butt.

2 posted on 10/03/2014 3:38:56 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sodom and Gomorrah Alert!


3 posted on 10/03/2014 3:42:03 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

RECALL THE DAMN JUDGE!


4 posted on 10/03/2014 3:49:44 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“for no logical reason.”

Logic has no place in The Law, And surely a scumbag lawyer in a dress with a little hammer would know that, it is the INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE and the WRITTEN LAW.


5 posted on 10/03/2014 3:50:32 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

State AGs and Governors should ignore any rulings until SCOTUS rules on the issue.


6 posted on 10/03/2014 3:50:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Interesting guy” appointed ny Dem. MO Gov. Nixon in ‘09!


7 posted on 10/03/2014 3:59:19 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

The GOP appointment are not much better. When it gets to Supreme Court, which will be soon, the fate of marriage will be decided by Republican appointed judges Kennedy and Roberts. Not optimistic.


8 posted on 10/03/2014 4:05:31 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

States will be forced to recognize out of state gay marriage before they will be forced to recognize concealed carry permits from other states. This is because the right to carry is clearly stated in the second amendment and the right to gay marriage is clearly stated nowhere in the constitution.

UP = DOWN


9 posted on 10/03/2014 4:11:47 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

By that reasoning, shouldn’t other states have to recognize Missouri’s ban on same-sex marriage?


10 posted on 10/03/2014 4:16:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am waiting for a judge to use the exact same reasoning to force a state like NY or NJ to recognize the concealed carry permit issued by another state.

I am not holding my breath.


11 posted on 10/03/2014 4:37:07 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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saying state laws banning the unions single out gay couples "for no logical reason."

well that isn't true - it doesn't single anyone out - the law merely defines what marriage is, which should even be necessary - language exists. Two people of the same sex cannot be husband and wife, and therefore, it is impossible for them to get married - there's the logic, if you need it, judge.

12 posted on 10/03/2014 4:39:54 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Judges are not legislators. Shove it.


13 posted on 10/03/2014 4:55:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
Patriots need to know why post-FDR era judges are wrongly deciding that state gay marriage bans are unconstitutional. I don't know if these judges were indoctrinated with the wrong ideas is law school, or if they are pro-gay activists, but below are excerpts from official sources which show why using the 14th Amendment's (14A) Equal Protections Clause (EPC) to declare state marriage bans unconstitutional don't hold water.

Not only did John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A where the EPC is found, clarify in the congressional record that 14A applies only express protections amended to the Constitution by the states to the states, but the Supreme Court had essentially clarified the same thing about three years after Bingham's clarification.

So since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay "righs," judges have no constitutionally enumerated rights to apply to the states, via 14A, to protect gay agenda issues. So the states are free to make 10th Amendment-protected laws which discriminate against gay issues, imo, as long as such laws don't also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.

Also, regardless what the corrupt media wants everybody to believe about the Supreme Court deciding the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) unconstitutional, Section 2 of DOMA is still in effect.

DOMA Section 2. Powers reserved to the states

No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.

Note that DOMA's Section 2 is reasonably based on the Constitution's Full Faith and Credit Clause, Clause 1 of Article IV, which gives Congress the power to decide the effect of one state's records in the other states. So judges who are declaring that state bans on gay marriage are unconstitutional are actually violating federal law as well as the Constitution imo.

14 posted on 10/03/2014 5:03:11 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
State AGs and Governors should ignore any rulings until SCOTUS rules on the issue.

Not going to happen by the Gov. Nixon ignored the State Constitution already by extending state income tax benefits to fake marriages.

The AG might be a different story. I pray so, at least.

15 posted on 10/03/2014 5:28:11 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Hey guys, this is a STATE judge, ruling AGAINST the state Constituion.

Impeach, arrest, and draw-and-quarter him. He is a traitor to the Constitution.


16 posted on 10/03/2014 5:30:49 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Does he really see no logical reason for treating couples that are actually married differently from those in pretend marriages?


17 posted on 10/03/2014 6:15:10 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read if the state appeals, there will be a stay. Why didn’t SCOTUS agree to hear one of those SSM appeals? Are they waiting for things to get worse, so when they uphold the SSM bans, there won’t be so much arguing?


18 posted on 10/03/2014 9:29:50 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Pollster1
"Does he really see no logical reason for treating couples that are actually married differently from those in pretend marriages?"

Judges can only rule on the evidence presented before them (the definition of "activist judge" is someone who does otherwise).

I don't know the specifics of this case, but it's very plausible that none of the lawyers on our side presented a logical reason. That's what happened with the Prop 8 trial, when its supposed-defenders could only find one person to defend marriage on the stand, and even he ended up testifying that the country would be "more American" on the day all 50 states had gay marriage.

That's why we keep losing these court battles; our side refuses to actually show up.
19 posted on 10/04/2014 9:33:08 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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