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High court denies gay marriage appeals [legal immediately in IN, OK, UT, VA and WI]
AP ^ | 10/06/2014 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 10/06/2014 7:07:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004

he Supreme Court has turned away appeals from five states seeking to prohibit same-sex marriages, paving the way for an immediate expansion of gay and lesbian unions.

The justices on Monday did not comment in rejecting appeals from Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The court's order immediately ends delays on marriage in those states. Couples in six other states should be able to get married in short order.

That would make same-sex marriage legal in 30 states and the District of Columbia.

But the justices have left unresolved for now the question of same-sex marriage nationwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Utah; US: Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: gay; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; homsexualagenda; johnroberts; judicialactivism; justiceroberts; lavendermafia; marriage; mittromney; moralabsolutes; obama; roberts; romney; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; samesexmarriage; supremecourt; ussc
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To: GIdget2004
Since when was regulating marriage a Federal power?

Since the 14th Amendment, when everything became a Federal power.

121 posted on 10/06/2014 11:13:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: GIdget2004

Kind of odd. You’d think they’d want a definitive ruling on this.

I guess there’s no split in the Circuit Court of Appeals yet, thus no real reason to get involved. If the 5th or 11th Circuit rules against gay marriage on a similar case, SCOTUS may hear the case.

Otherwise, the battle may be lost.


122 posted on 10/06/2014 11:13:35 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: RIghtwardHo
I’ve said and I say again ... an Article V convention would be an unmitigated disaster ... for Conservatism.

Agreed. Until we can do something about public education, this country is doomed.

123 posted on 10/06/2014 11:14:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats: the Party of slavery to the immensely wealthy for over 200 years.)
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To: GIdget2004

30/50 is 60% of the country.


124 posted on 10/06/2014 11:19:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Hoodat

Correct. The Constitution is a scrap of paper to the DC elites.


125 posted on 10/06/2014 11:20:59 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rhubarbk

I knew someone would catch it!


126 posted on 10/06/2014 11:21:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (We can make it work with only one square per restroom visit -- Sheryl Crow)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Until the truth about homosexuality comes out, we’ll not have decades of turmoil. You’ll have people over 50 dying off and a new generation raised on porn and teacher-endorsed sex going forward.

If everybody is doing it, who am I to judge?


127 posted on 10/06/2014 11:22:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BeadCounter

Russians? You mean the lying, cheating, alcoholic, porn-loving, hackers/thieves Russians? The country that lies as it breathes?


128 posted on 10/06/2014 11:23:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What The People vote for, has no representation in America.
We vote NO, they say, too bad you can marry anything you want to.

Stacked courts to nullify the will of The People.

We got ‘em.


129 posted on 10/06/2014 11:23:54 AM PDT by TheConservativeParty (Colleen Hufford, American. We will never forget.)
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To: Utah Binger

“Hey queers in Utah.”

Kind of an oxymoron that Utah would have homosexuals...one would think. However, God is Mightier than any worldly court, and has told us the demise of homosexuals, and all those who in His eyes, are ‘wicked’. Though at the top of the list, it’s not JUST homosexuals.....

The New Jerusalem

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 21:5-8


130 posted on 10/06/2014 11:24:11 AM PDT by ourworldawry
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To: 1010RD

There’s a lot of people, the so-called “Putin fan-boys” who will hold up the fact that Russia has taken measures against gay marriage, gay propaganda, etc.


131 posted on 10/06/2014 11:45:48 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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Delegate Marshall Marriage Amendment co-Author Responds to Supreme Court
Dear Friends,

The US Supreme Court has left the scene of a “hit and run” it caused by letting stand the decision of two federal Appeals judges striking down Virginia’s voter-approved Marriage Amendment.

By failing to gain the support of four justices to hear the appeal of Virginia’s marriage case, the Supreme Court has placed the Government of the Commonwealth in the hands of two federal judges whose very names are unknown to “We the people.”

The Supreme Court’s decision disregards the “Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” and will fundamentally compromise and seriously erode the bonds of allegiance by the most patriotic of citizens, to government at all levels because this is not the America of the Founder’s vision!

Nor did the Founders establish a system of Government whereby a few unknown appointed federal judges could establish and impose their own law on the the populace which contradicts the laws passed by the people’s duly-elected representatives.

Shortly before he was appointed Chief Justice in 1969, Chief Justice Warren Berger noted, “A Court which is final and unreviewable needs more careful scrutiny than any other. Unreviewable power is most likely to self-indulge ... no public institution, or the people who operate it, can be above public debate.”

The Founders gave Congress vast authority over the cases federal courts are permitted to rule on:
Congress has “unlimited control over the Court’s appellate jurisdiction, as well as total jurisdiction of the lower federal courts. ... Congress is in position to restrict the actual exercise of judicial review at times, or even to frustrate it altogether.”
(Edward S. Corwin, Understanding the Constitution)

Failure of Members of Congress or candidates for Congress of either political party to rein in such abuses of power by federal judges by abolishing their ability to hear such cases as is expressly provided for in the Constitution should be disqualified from holding office.

Make no mistake: Once natural marriage is abolished, marriage will soon include polygamy, or threesomes, leaving innocent children to suffer the consequences and other far reaching consequences of attempting to force legal acceptance of so-called same sex marriage.

Thank you for your continued help!

Sincerely,

Delegate Bob Marshall


132 posted on 10/06/2014 12:03:54 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: HokieMom

Well stated.


133 posted on 10/06/2014 12:09:25 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Resolute Conservative; VerySadAmerican; Nuc 1.1; MamaTexan; Political Junkie Too; jeffc; 1010RD; ...

Article V ping!

WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE SOVEREIGN.

When Federal Courts assume power to rewrite state constitutions to require homo marriage, what further outrage is necessary? There is nothing to lose and everything to gain with an Article V convention to propose amendments.


134 posted on 10/06/2014 12:25:41 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I’m the one that coined the phrase ‘wishful thinking’ on this forum so I know what I am doing and it is NOT wishful thinking.

I gave the facts and not ‘wishing’.

The fact is that states that have not passed same-sex marriage laws have a voter base that has voted against allowing same sex marriage laws.

The fact is that 26 states have passed statutory bans on same sex marriage.

The fact is that only 12 states have passed laws or recognized same sex marriage.

The fact is that it is entirely probable that a Constitutional Marriage Amendment can be ratified by 38 states.

The fact is that Americans have woken up and are still learning of the true agenda of the homosexual.

The fact is that same sex marriage has progressed mostly through the Courts, not through the electoral process.

The fact is that Americans now understand they can be shutdown and prosecuted for failing to comply with the demands of homosexuals.

The fact is the homosexual is launching an attack on the Church.

The fact is the homosexual is encroaching on the religious liberties of Americans in violation of their 1st Amendment NOT for the purpose of saving the republic but for the purpose of furthering their own agenda.

And the facts go on and on and on ad infinitum.

This war has just begun.


135 posted on 10/06/2014 12:50:15 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: NYRepublican72; BuckeyeTexan
Kind of odd. You’d think they’d want a definitive ruling on this.

It takes four votes for SCOTUS to agree to hear a case. There were, interestingly, no recorded dissents from this denial.

It is clear that Scalia, Alito and Thomas are opposed to court-imposed gay marriage, and Roberts probably is as well. It is equally clear that Kagan, Ginsburg and Sotomayor favor it, and Breyer probably does as well. So Kennedy will be the deciding vote and, while he has favored gay rights in a number of cases, he hasn't spoken to the gay marriage issue yet.

My reading of the 9-0 vote to deny cert. is that neither camp is sure what Kennedy will do, and no one wants to force that issue while it can still be avoided.

I guess there’s no split in the Circuit Court of Appeals yet, thus no real reason to get involved. If the 5th or 11th Circuit rules against gay marriage on a similar case, SCOTUS may hear the case.

If one of those Circuits rules against a right to gay marriage (and I strongly suspect that the 5th will), SCOTUS will almost have to take the issue up. Then we'll see what Kennedy will do.

136 posted on 10/06/2014 12:56:16 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Hoodat

Wake up! Don’t cave based on incomplete information!

The 10th is in a conflict with the 14th.

“The arguments presented to the Supreme Court of the United States in Plessy v. Ferguson involve two competing amendments to the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment says states may not deny people equal protection of the law and the Tenth Amendment reserves broad, undefined powers (often referred to as police powers) for the states.”

This provides SCOTUS cover for making its egregious decisions against states because they can stretch their interpretation of the 14th which was ratified to correct the injustices left over from the era of slavery.

BUT A MARRIAGE AMENDMENT MADE SPECIFIC TO THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE

AND

EXPLICITLY EXEMPT FROM ALTERATION, MODIFICATION, REVISION OR CREATIVE INTERPRETATION UNDER THE 14TH AMENDMENT

cannot be and shall not be ignored by federal courts.


137 posted on 10/06/2014 1:02:32 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Alter Kaker

The 38 states that have passed bans on same sex marriage or voted down laws that legalize same sex marriage DO NOT NEED to word anything to ‘prohibit’ a Marriage Amendment.

The Marriage Amendment will simply define the definition of marriage and will resolutely and explicitly make clear that the Marriage Amendment is not subject to any alteration, modification, revision or interpretation using the 14th Amendment.

The momentum is now moving to traditional citizens as the last few years have unveiled the true homosexual agenda which includes shutting down and prosecuting persons and businesses that do not bow to the homosexual agenda.


138 posted on 10/06/2014 1:16:09 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: GIdget2004

The United States government no more than a tyranny of judges.


139 posted on 10/06/2014 1:23:14 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The way Justice Kennedy weighed in on the DOMA case shows he has no compunction to follow the law. In fact he follows his emotions and inner rage which makes him very dangerous.

Mona Charen nailed him on his mangling of that case.


140 posted on 10/06/2014 1:44:13 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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