Posted on 10/17/2014 5:09:59 AM PDT by Din Maker
It's looking like a tough off-year election for Democrats, with their Senate majority at serious risk and their chances of gaining House seats down toward zero. I see evidence that one group Democrats have been counting on is moving away from them: Hispanics. Hispanics' latest Obama job approval has sunk to 44 percent, just 3 points above the national average.
In the last decade liberals have surged to victories in all top-of-the-ticket races in a state that once seemed safely Republican. This year that chain may well be broken. Incumbent Sen. Mark Udall trails Republican Rep. Cory Gardner in the Real Clear Politics average of recent polls and is at 44 percent, well below 50. Incumbent Gov. John Hickenlooper leads former Rep. Bob Beauprez by only 0.4 percent.
Conservatives are wrong in supposing Hispanics oppose abortions like 1950s Catholics. But few Hispanics regard allowing late-term abortions as a central issue. As for immigration, relatively few Hispanics tell pollsters that's a top issue. They bristle when Republicans make statements that seem contemptuous of immigrants. But they've also noticed that Democrats didn't pass legislation legalizing illegals when they had the votes.
Historically, the Democratic Party has been a collection of out-groups who, when gathered together, make up a majority of the nation.
But each out-group has different interests and priorities. Holding them together is difficult. The Obama Democrats have treated Hispanics as a passive and reliable source of votes. They have not delivered on issues Hispanics care about and instead have advanced the pet causes of gentry liberals. The evidence from Colorado, California and Texas suggests Hispanics may be noticing.
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I’m skeptical. They come from communist cultures and will vote communist.
Ebola killed amnesty, at least for this year. I notice Luis Gutierrez has been very quiet lately.
> I’m skeptical. They come from communist cultures and will vote communist.
A lot of them are not citizens, either, but they vote anyway.
Who’s going to stop them?
But . . . Republicans: Immigration reform is more likely to happen if we take the Senate.
“Ebola killed amnesty, at least for this year.”
Actually Cantor’s defeat in June killed Amnesty for the year. As Rush correctly points out, the Democrats will not push ahead on Amnesty without a significant number of Republican suckers - I mean supporters. And watching Cantor get his butt handed to him scared the DAYLIGHTS out of rank-and-file Republicans who had Karl Rove dollar signs in their eyes...if they would just vote the ‘right way’ on this one issue.
But Ebola may well kill Amnesty for at least next year...and maybe (hopefully) forever.
Why don’t the Republicans campaign to bring back the US to being the country the legal US citizen hispanic voters came here to live in?
Only for the moment, because they did not get amnesty and the other Skittles-pooing unicorns Obama had promised them.
They’ll be back as soon as the Dems come up with a candidate who convinces them he/she will deliver.
More hispanic BS.....there is no such thing as the hispanic voting block....there is the welfare “mexicans” legal or otherwise, some central Americans that in some cases follow the mexicans.
Then there is the rest of the Hispanics. Tejanos, who are more inclined to be on the “right” side. Most South Americans, some PRs, about half the Cubans...and so on.
Here on FR there are many so-called Hispanics but dont feel the need to say “Im Hispanic” at every frickin opportunity.
They are American..period. But they have to listen to some of the snarky little minds group them(us) into a small group.
Thats it, exactly.
Barone points out that few Hispanics vote on immigration. They DO vote on the welfare state. In the 2012 election the #1 issue that drove Hispanic votes was their support for ObamaCare.
People who think that Hispanics will cross over to vote Republican if Republicans support amnesty are fooling themselves. The numbers and trending doen’t support that at all.
Thank you. There is a big difference from the illegal alien and the person who’s parents or grand parents or even great grand parents came from Mexico, Spain, Central America or South America.
I personally know three Hispanic people. The first guy grew up in Monterrey, MX. He went to a Catholic high school in San Antonio. He went to Notre Dame on a boxing scholarship. He served in the Mexican Secret Service guarding elpresidente. He married a US citizen. He has a green card.
They own their own business. He votes republican.
I know another man who grew up in Chile. He moved here 35 years ago. He is the sales manager of sawmill in Idaho. He is also here legally. He married a US citizen and has a green card. He is also a republican.
The third person grew up in Mexico City. His great grand parents moved there from Germany in the 1800’s. He is the sales manager of the second largest sawmill in North America. It is a multi BILLION dollar sales company. His parents and siblings still live in Mexico City.
Up here in New Hampshire and Mass there has become a large Brazilian immigrant population. Generally, they are the nicest, hardest working people you will ever meet. I am sure some of them are here illegally. These are the people willing to work TWO jobs washing dishes and doing landscaping. I am not condoning illegal immigration. I am just saying not all of them are wet backs that come here just to get on welfare.
The only thing that comes of this is Republicans delude themselves into believing that amnesty will guarantee them a permanent majority and will embolden them to try pushing it through. But they aren't winning the hispanic vote, period.
They come to the US for A BETTER life. They come to get out of the poverty and violence of their homelands. They do not come here, in the majority, to be poor on welfare and living with violent ghetto rats. They don’t want the criminals that victimized them in their homelands following them into the US via careless illegal immigrant policy in the US.
Liberals made up the racial classification “Hispanic” and it is strange to immigrants. They identify by Nation of origin like Europeans who came to the US. Liberals brain-wash their children to be resentful, little skin deep diversity racists. Their parents don’t like it. They are white, black and brown. They don’t like being lumped in with liberalism’s angry victim American Blacks as their sub-cultures and values are very different from Blacks and one another.
If Republicans want their vote they will talk about small business administration loans, and job training for legal immigrants and denounce Obama for allowing violent drug dealers and other criminals to cross over the border. They don’t want men in the women’s rest rooms.
Another thing: Republicans have allowed liberals to redefine the “American dream.” It is constitutional and economic freedom and the rule of law applied to all inhabitants of the US, in equality, which makes for a peaceful and wealthy existence. It is the freedom to pursue happiness within the rule of law.
Further, they should attack liberalism’s race identity, isolation, race baiting and race hate divisions mined for their own power while dead ending immigrants into poverty.
Great point about Cantor. His primary defeat in Virginia scared the hell out of the GOPe. I’m sure they were regrouping for another try at it, but the Ebola breakout in Dallas ended that. Maybe now the American people will wake up to the folly of unguarded borders. I have friends who had no problem with amnesty but the minute Ebola struck here they were singing a different tune and now they’re mad that we let Mr. Duncan into the country. I guess the thought of illegal aliens carrying killer diseases into the country changed their minds.
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